Posted on 10/08/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
Why would intelligent, successful people give up their careers, alienate their friends, and cause havoc in their families...to become Catholic? Indeed, why would anyone become Catholic?
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So too pillars. They uphold what is being built.
It is the Holy Spirit that draws people and builds the body of Christ. The keys to the kingdom of God are the scriptures. The binding and loosing is already determined and actually reads "having already been". The apostles nor anyone else can not determine who gets into heaven. God alone does that and that having been determined before time began.
Only God can forgive sins. The Pharisees were angry with Christ for that very reason. Jesus was forgiving sins and that was one of the indications they should have caught that He indeed was God. The apostles were not God and neither are the priests.
Galatians 2:7-8.
Peter was to preach the Good News to the Jews....that was the keys he was given.
Paul was to preach the Good News to the Gentiles. That was his "grace" given to him by Christ.
Notice in Gal 1:18 Paul went to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Peter. This was a get to know you meeting between the two.
Also note in Gal 1:19 Paul met James, the Lord's brother. Shoots down the thought that Mary remained a virgin her whole life.
So there is the Word.
Now, what say you?
Read it again. It does not say the apostles and prophets built the foundation. Ephesians says they are part of the foundation. Matthew has The Lord Jesus promising to build his church upon this rock, after he just gave the name Peter to Simon/Shimon.
it's also customary to name your denomination, sect, or group. You should know these scriptures back and forth.
I have explained this several times already. Someone needs to pay more attention.
then your position must be a very, very weak one if it can't stand the light of the debate.
it's very nice to hide behind such lofty rhetoric....reminds me of Obama. can't get the truth out of him to save your life.
Now tell her the reason, the real reason, not the prot version they were banned.
May I remind you that the writers of scripture were Jews. Catholics trying to take credit is laughable. One only needs to compare the Douay-Rheims Bible to the Hebrew and Greek text to see they couldn’t even get translation done correctly.
You are wrong.
I will not allow the truth to be a springboard for prot rants, tantrums and hissy fits.
I have explained this several times already. Someone needs to pay more attention.
Why do you divert into minutia? Do you think God didn’t know the difference? God said don’t eat the blood. That it was to be spilled on the ground. Now you’re questioning God?
Right here; read it slowly and reverently . 17 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. 4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. 6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. 7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. 8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. 9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. 10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. 11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. 12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. 13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. 14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. 20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
Read it again. It does not say the apostles and prophets built the foundation. Ephesians says they are part of the foundation. Matthew has The Lord Jesus promising to build his church upon this rock, after he just gave the name Peter to Simon/Shimon.
Paul uses the imagery of a building as he writes this passage in Ephesians. Note the words: built, foundation, cornerstone, building, built.
But we'll play it your way. What was the foundation of the apostles and the prophets? That foundation has to be something. What is the "having been built upon the foundation....." What is that foundation??
it's also customary to name your denomination, sect, or group. You should know these scriptures back and forth.
I've never seen naming your denomination as a requirement for posting, nor have I seen hardly any other poster do so. But for your curiosity my denomination is Christian.
Because the Catholic Church wanted power and knew that if scripture was available to the people they would find truth just as it hapened when they did get it. The prohibition made no distinction between copies with error or accurate copies so don’t give us the nonsense about keeping error out.
You got that one right.
I've heard Catholics make the connection between Mary being sinless and that's the reason she had to be perpetually virgin, as if having sex with her husband was sin.
Right here; read it slowly and reverently . 17 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2...
af_vet_1981 is very good about asking questions, but when you put questions to him/her he/she can't answer those.
It's time for you to start answering questions. You continue to dodge them. I think it's because you can't answer them without shooting holes in Catholicism.
But hey, maybe you and verga can start the no answer club on FR.
When you and verga can engage in honest debate, I'll reply back to you. Until then....I'm done with you.
sure it is.
Hmmmmm, I see no “one holy, catholic, and apostolic church” there. I see the ekklesia of Christ. Those called out by God to be members of the body of Christ. One in the Spirit cleansed by the shed blood of Christ. That “one holy, catholic, and apostolic church” thing must be made up by the Catholic Church.
You are wrong
But as we both know this idea of Mary remaining a virgin is blown away in Galatians 1:19 where Paul writes:
But I did not see any other of the apostles except James, the Lord's brother.
Paul wouldn't make a mistake of calling the brother of Christ a cousin. He was too good of a writer and knew his Greek well. It's amazing how Catholicism falls apart under the light of Scripture.
And He cannot break them without denying Himself.
It's a logical fallacy claiming that God can do whatever He wishes.
God can't do everything and any argument based on that fallacious reasoning is doomed to failure before it even gets off the ground.
LOLOL!!!!!
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