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Why would anyone become Catholic?
https://www.indiegogo.com ^ | October 2, 2014 | Indiegogo

Posted on 10/08/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

Why would intelligent, successful people give up their careers, alienate their friends, and cause havoc in their families...to become Catholic? Indeed, why would anyone become Catholic?

As an evangelist and author who recently threw my own life into some turmoil by deciding to enter the Catholic Church, I've faced this question a lot lately. That is one reason I decided to make this documentary; it's part of my attempt to try to explain to those closest to me why I would do such a crazy thing.

Convinced isn't just about me, though. The film is built around interviews with some of the most articulate and compelling Catholic converts in our culture today, including Scott Hahn, Francis Beckwith, Taylor Marshall, Holly Ordway, Abby Johnson, Jeff Cavins, Devin Rose, Matthew Leonard, Mark Regnerus, Jason Stellman, John Bergsma, Christian Smith, Kevin Vost, David Currie, Richard Cole, and Kenneth Howell. It also contains special appearances by experts in the field of conversion such as Patrick Madrid and Donald Asci.

Ultimately, this is a story about finding truth, beauty, and fulfillment in an unexpected place, and then sacrificing to grab on to it. I think it will entertain and inspire you, and perhaps even give you a fresh perspective on an old faith.

(Excerpt) Read more at indiegogo.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Other Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; willconvertforfood
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To: af_vet_1981
It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles,

Did Paul write that to a CATHOLIC church?

2,101 posted on 10/17/2014 3:36:54 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga

I thought that I was the only one up this early...


2,102 posted on 10/17/2014 3:38:42 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
I would NEVER go back to as little Scripture as I had as a Catholic.

Did you ever go to Mass? There are three readings at each Mass, more than at most Protestant services, so I hear.

If a Catholic goes to daily Mass, he hears most of the Bible over a three year cycle.

Did the Church hide the Bible from you?

But having the Bible without the Church leads to a proliferation of errors, as exemplified by the countless Protestant sects, who all can't agree on a single doctrine, (even Sola Scriptura; see high church Anglicans), except that they're not Catholic.

2,103 posted on 10/17/2014 3:55:14 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: af_vet_1981

Ironic considering the history of the Catholic church and the rampant immorality that has existed within it for over almost 1,000 years.


2,104 posted on 10/17/2014 4:10:43 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie
What kind of TRUTH would cause a RANT?

Scripture.

2,105 posted on 10/17/2014 4:18:54 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie

Just guilty.

That’s how the Catholic church likes to keep its people thinking about themselves.


2,106 posted on 10/17/2014 4:21:05 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Springfield Reformer
Granted, you may have just thrown that line about Peter in there as an innocent bit of editorializing, but if you were attempting to project what Ephesians taught, there's nothing in there about Peter being exalted over the others, "chief," or in any other material sense, and a reasonable reader could view your lumping that all together as perhaps a less than accurate representation of what Paul said:

Yes, only it is integration, not editorializing, especially when I had previously quoted the Ephesians passage in color in 1975 ...

Peter became the chief apostle, the servant of all, as shown in other scriptures that I assumed were common knowledge.

2,107 posted on 10/17/2014 4:23:38 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; Gamecock; daniel1212; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Did you ever go to Mass? There are three readings at each Mass, more than at most Protestant services, so I hear.

Hearsay. OK.

If a Catholic goes to daily Mass, he hears most of the Bible over a three year cycle.

Been debunked NUMEROUS times.

And certainly nowhere near what a person can get reading it for themselves everyday.

Did the Church hide the Bible from you?

Essentially. They certainly never encouraged anyone to read it for themselves. Rather they DIScouraged it by telling us that we could not understand it and had to have THEM tell us what it meant, to interpret it for us.

And I KNOW that I am not alone in that.

But having the Bible without the Church leads to a proliferation of errors, as exemplified by the countless Protestant sects, who all can't agree on a single doctrine, (even Sola Scriptura; see high church Anglicans), except that they're not Catholic.

Show us where the assumption of Mary is stated in Scripture. And her perpetual virginity, the immaculate conception, purgatory, praying to someone besides God.

2,108 posted on 10/17/2014 4:30:52 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie

4:45 every morning, walk the dogs, hit the gym, and go to work. In bed between 11:30 pm and midnight.


2,109 posted on 10/17/2014 4:35:41 AM PDT by verga (You anger Catholics by telling them a lie, you anger protestants by telling them the truth.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
...by the countless Protestant sects, who all can't agree on a single doctrine,...

NONE at ALL?Methinks you failed to think this through.

2,110 posted on 10/17/2014 4:38:28 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom; St_Thomas_Aquinas
Show us where the assumption of Mary is stated in Scripture. And her perpetual virginity, the immaculate conception, purgatory, praying to someone besides God.

The fall back position on those that can not / will not use reason.

2,111 posted on 10/17/2014 4:38:42 AM PDT by verga (You anger Catholics by telling them a lie, you anger protestants by telling them the truth.)
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To: verga
I usually awake around 6 (see my posting record) sit it this dumb chair an hour or two fussing with folks, see the WIFE off to work (What a gig I've got!), let the critters loose for the day; then maybe do some work around here.


This morning I awoke early; dreaming about how out of control our government is!

Then I couldn't go back to sleep.

2,112 posted on 10/17/2014 4:47:26 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga
The fall back position on those that can not / will not use reason.

HMMMmmm...

The fall back position on those that can not / will not use Scripture: Well; it COULD happen!

2,113 posted on 10/17/2014 4:50:09 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981; Rides_A_Red_Horse
>> I figure all those who cannot name their denomination, sect, or group may as well be counted as Marc Driscoll's group.<<

That is a sad statement t on several levels. First of all, what's with this church group mentality? Belonging to or meeting with a group doesn't save. Individuals are saved. In Revelation we see that there are individuals who are still try even though the overall group is being condemned. We see God telling His people to "come out" of groups so they won't be subject to the plagues that are coming on the group.

And what is this mental hang up of some earthly human leader? The indoctrination of the need for some earthly leader is not found in scripture. Christ is the head of every man and the Holy Spirit is his counselor. Scripture shows localized assemblies of individual believers. Paul excoriated people for following or identifying with some leader.

>>It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles,<<

You mean like pedophile priests who simply get moved rather than removed? Give us a break. You want to paint with a broad brush? How about we paint with that broad brush and assign the sins of those priests on all Catholics?

People had better "search the scriptures to see if what they teach is true" and if not had better "come out of her my people" if they teach something the apostles didn't teach.

2,114 posted on 10/17/2014 5:42:25 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: faithhopecharity

How about we just preach Jesus and let the Holy Spirit draw those God has chosen?


2,115 posted on 10/17/2014 5:47:04 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: af_vet_1981; Resettozero
Yes, only it is integration, not editorializing, especially when I had previously quoted the Ephesians passage in color in 1975 ...

Pfiffle.  A lurker reading just your post would, or at least reasonably could, believe you were presenting Ephesians as a source for the content you cite.  "Integration" would allow me to say, for example, that Ephesians teaches that the ecclesia is built on the work of the prophets and apostles, the second worst of whom was Peter (right after Judas), who once was told by Jesus that he, Peter, was speaking for Satan, and who required special remediation for major spiritual lapses at least twice in his career. 

Now I could call that "integration," but it would be confusing on several levels. For one thing, I'm wrapping it in with Ephesians, not a specific passage in Ephesians, so the reader could think that I'm saying that's all in there somewhere and they just missed it. For another, we don't know if Peter was really the second worst apostle.  That would be an opinion, not a Scripturally stated fact, in Ephesians or anywhere else. And if someone concluded from that I was misleading them, what should my response be? Probably, Oops, No, I had no intent to mislead but yes, I should have been more clear.

Peter became the chief apostle, the servant of all, as shown in other scriptures that I assumed were common knowledge.

It is common knowledge that Roman Catholics believe in the Petrine office.  It is also common belief here, among Protestants, that belief in the Petrine office has no Scriptural warrant and was a consequence, in reality, of the shifting political fortunes of the Christian religion in Rome.  So no Protestant reader of your statement would be very likely to accept that as a natural or correct "integration," but rather as an unannounced emendation based on wishful thinking. 

Must get to work now. Later ...

Peace,

SR

2,116 posted on 10/17/2014 5:47:43 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Elsie

She wasn’t supposed to see that.


2,117 posted on 10/17/2014 5:49:04 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: Elsie
>>And if they DON'T???<<

The get anathema tagged.

2,118 posted on 10/17/2014 5:56:19 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: verga; metmom; St_Thomas_Aquinas

Just like Paul said, “those pesky Bereans”. Right?


2,119 posted on 10/17/2014 6:07:02 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: Springfield Reformer
A lurker reading just your post would, or at least reasonably could, believe

He was not a lurker; I had already posted to him.

you were presenting Ephesians as a source for the content you cite. "Integration" would allow me to say, for example, that Ephesians teaches that the ecclesia is built on the work of the prophets and apostles, the second worst of whom was Peter (right after Judas), who once was told by Jesus that he, Peter, was speaking for Satan, and who required special remediation for major spiritual lapses at least twice in his career.

Is that how you think ? Career? I see bias, the same antiJacob bias I've encountered my entire career, now being given voice against Shimon, as well as the Catholics who love him.

2,120 posted on 10/17/2014 6:33:45 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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