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Why would anyone become Catholic?
https://www.indiegogo.com ^ | October 2, 2014 | Indiegogo

Posted on 10/08/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

Why would intelligent, successful people give up their careers, alienate their friends, and cause havoc in their families...to become Catholic? Indeed, why would anyone become Catholic?

As an evangelist and author who recently threw my own life into some turmoil by deciding to enter the Catholic Church, I've faced this question a lot lately. That is one reason I decided to make this documentary; it's part of my attempt to try to explain to those closest to me why I would do such a crazy thing.

Convinced isn't just about me, though. The film is built around interviews with some of the most articulate and compelling Catholic converts in our culture today, including Scott Hahn, Francis Beckwith, Taylor Marshall, Holly Ordway, Abby Johnson, Jeff Cavins, Devin Rose, Matthew Leonard, Mark Regnerus, Jason Stellman, John Bergsma, Christian Smith, Kevin Vost, David Currie, Richard Cole, and Kenneth Howell. It also contains special appearances by experts in the field of conversion such as Patrick Madrid and Donald Asci.

Ultimately, this is a story about finding truth, beauty, and fulfillment in an unexpected place, and then sacrificing to grab on to it. I think it will entertain and inspire you, and perhaps even give you a fresh perspective on an old faith.

(Excerpt) Read more at indiegogo.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Other Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; willconvertforfood
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To: terycarl
if you are posing that as a question, the answer is no.

I was posting it to show what Rome teaches compared to the historical record.

There were Catholics before the Only TRUE church was founded!


It was sarcasm; direct at the naked Emperor.

2,221 posted on 10/18/2014 4:25:19 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
3) If the Bible is the SOLE or ULTIMATE rule of faith, by what authority did Luther remove books from the Bible?

This is supposed to be LOGICAL?

It does quite CLEARLY show you have no problems repeating what history has show to be INCORRECT:

Luther removed NOTHING!!!


2,222 posted on 10/18/2014 4:27:24 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
The Holy Spirit is, of course, the inspiration for the validity of scripture...however, He does so through the teaching authority of the Catholic Church.

ONLY??

I think your claim of exclusiveness is repulsive to thinking people.

I've heard that at one time there were around 7,000 folks who hadn't bowed the knee to Baal.

2,223 posted on 10/18/2014 4:32:36 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear
It amazes me what they will say to dodge the truth.

It amazes me what they will NOT say to dodge the truth.

#1463


2,224 posted on 10/18/2014 4:34:20 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
We don't need to go TO a church, we ARE the church, the genuine body of Christ.

The Book says that; doesn't it!


Hebrews 10:19-25

Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water.

Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful. And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

2,225 posted on 10/18/2014 4:38:38 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear
I'm stunned. Do you realize that you are not questioning my words? You are questioning the words of the Holy Spirit. James 1:13 was written by James who was inspired by the Holy Spirit to write them. Those were not my words. If you have a disagreement with the Holy Spirit I would suggest you address that disagreement with Him.

HaHaHa...Most of these people don't know any more scripture that Vladimir Putin...He may even know more scripture...

They don't have any idea what God says...

Mat 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

They just follow the pied piper... And they don't even get embarrassed when it's pointed out...They just continue on thru the fog...

2,226 posted on 10/18/2014 4:41:40 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: metmom
Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus,
(Not some magically changed wine we sip)

... with the full assurance that faith brings...
(Not faith in following the rituals that ROME has set in place.)

...not giving up meeting together...
(You know it only takes two or three.)


2,227 posted on 10/18/2014 4:43:53 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl

You READ something?


2,228 posted on 10/18/2014 4:45:15 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
See what happens when you don't follow h His established rules????

Really?

The Jews had PLENTY of rules.

How many of those did Jesus follow?

25%?

67%?

100%?

Shouldn't your church follow THOSE 'established' rules??

2,229 posted on 10/18/2014 4:47:55 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
See what happens when you don't follow h His established rules????

Really?

 
 
 
 

 
Micah 6:8
He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.


John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?
 Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."


1 John 3:21-23
Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him.
And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.


James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
 

 
 

2,230 posted on 10/18/2014 4:49:11 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
There should be an unbroken chain of apostolic succession in the choice of bishops; there must always be a seed that held to the traditional teaching of the Jewish Apostles, guaranteed by the grace and truth of Jesus our Messiah who prophesied the gates of hell would not prevail against the church he built and builds; I understand it had to be adapted to the Gentiles; that was the plan, even though I, like the Apostles, wished for the immediate restoration of the kingdom to Israel.

Then why doesn't your church have the ability to SHOW that it actually does this; AND NOTHING MORE?

2,231 posted on 10/18/2014 4:52:10 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Pretty blue font, but what is it?

Did you make that up?

If not, where did you get it from?

You’ll LOVE this!!

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2,232 posted on 10/18/2014 4:54:30 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Iscool

Thanks for messing up a perfectly good ElsieThon!


2,233 posted on 10/18/2014 4:58:28 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl; Elsie
Elsie:There were Catholics before the Only TRUE church was founded!

tc:if you are posing that as a question, the answer is no.

If that is an example of reading comprehension, I think I begin to see the reason that the Catholic church tells it's constituents that they cannot correctly interpret Scripture for themselves.

2,234 posted on 10/18/2014 5:08:26 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: af_vet_1981; CynicalBear
There should be an unbroken chain of apostolic succession in the choice of bishops; there must always be a seed that held to the traditional teaching of the Jewish Apostles, guaranteed by the grace and truth of Jesus our Messiah who prophesied the gates of hell would not prevail against the church he built and builds; I understand it had to be adapted to the Gentiles; that was the plan, even though I, like the Apostles, wished for the immediate restoration of the kingdom to Israel.

There SHOULD be and there isn't.

There MUST be (?) but just where is the verification that the traditions taught by the Catholic church today are the ones passed down faithfully FROM THE APOSTLES, and not made, or corrupted along the way.

2,235 posted on 10/18/2014 5:18:41 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: af_vet_1981; metmom
The duplicity of Catholic thought amazes me. They consider every "church" large or small that adhers to Catholic doctrine part of the Catholic Church. They go so far as to include those who were raised Catholic but don't attend as still Catholics. They even include those who have passed from this life as Catholics. Yet they can not see or refuse to see that the ekklesia of believers also has localized assemblies large and small and includes those who have passed from this life.

The ekklesia includes all those who have accepted Christ alone by faith alone from all generations living or who have passed from this life regardless of where they assemble or in what numbers. Until people understand that they will be slaves to a cult mentality.

2,236 posted on 10/18/2014 6:04:59 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: af_vet_1981; daniel1212
>>There should be an unbroken chain of apostolic succession in the choice of bishops;<<

Please show where the apostles taught that.

2,237 posted on 10/18/2014 6:09:38 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Once again well done!


2,238 posted on 10/18/2014 6:20:49 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: Iscool
>>They just follow the pied piper... And they don't even get embarrassed when it's pointed out...They just continue on thru the fog...<<

At times it's breathtaking to watch.

2,239 posted on 10/18/2014 6:27:16 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: wmfights; St_Thomas_Aquinas
There is a inherent lack of faith in this comment.

It once again relies on a typical Roman recourse of a strawman, that of having the Bible without the Church, as holding Scripture as supreme and sufficient does not mean that, but means that the only source of Truth which is wholly inspired of God is the supreme authority for obedience and Truth, is abundantly evidence in Scripture.

Under the alternative, that of the church being supreme as possessing perpetual assured infallibility, which premise most cults effectively operate out of, you also have sects, and the most critical heresies, and with the problem of errant personal interpretation becoming corporate, among other things even engaging in a common practice that has zero examples in Scripture, and attributes uniquely Divine power to created beings.

Meanwhile, the unity that Rome has is very limited and largely on paper, while what she does and effects constitutes the evidence of what she really believes, which is partly shown by by treating even prosodomite, proabortion liberal pols as members in life and in death.

And by her fruit being overall liberal, while those who hold most strongly to Scripture being supreme as literally being the word of God and accurate in all it teaches are by far the most conservative and unified believers in basic beliefs.

And Catholics who share that view of Scripture, which are few, as likewise conservative, while under the model of the church being supreme, when the leadership, which interprets itself, becomes liberal so do its followers, resulting in division, the very thing that RC attack evangelicals for but which results in their unity that transcends external divisions.

Moreover, the things Catholics under sola ecclesia can disagree on is also extensive , even as to what cannot be disagreed on, being infallible, as well the meaning of both infallible and fallible (the majority) teachings. Thus under both models you have both a limited degree of unity as well as division, nor does organizational unity constitute perpetual validity, and thus the question is which is Scriptural:

Unity under the premise of an autocratic infallible magisterium, in which Scripture history and tradition can only assuredly mean what she may say, or upon the basis of Scriptural substantiation in word and in power, by which both men and writings of God become established as being so, as in Scripture.

Even though unity under this is more difficult, as it can only be realized relative to the degree of Scriptural substantiation, which the apostles manifested, (2Cor. 6:4-10; 12:12 in contrast to autocratic self declaration, thus cults have the most unity, "pope" Jim Jones" being the most extreme example.

2,240 posted on 10/18/2014 6:31:13 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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