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Why would anyone become Catholic?
https://www.indiegogo.com ^ | October 2, 2014 | Indiegogo

Posted on 10/08/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

Why would intelligent, successful people give up their careers, alienate their friends, and cause havoc in their families...to become Catholic? Indeed, why would anyone become Catholic?

As an evangelist and author who recently threw my own life into some turmoil by deciding to enter the Catholic Church, I've faced this question a lot lately. That is one reason I decided to make this documentary; it's part of my attempt to try to explain to those closest to me why I would do such a crazy thing.

Convinced isn't just about me, though. The film is built around interviews with some of the most articulate and compelling Catholic converts in our culture today, including Scott Hahn, Francis Beckwith, Taylor Marshall, Holly Ordway, Abby Johnson, Jeff Cavins, Devin Rose, Matthew Leonard, Mark Regnerus, Jason Stellman, John Bergsma, Christian Smith, Kevin Vost, David Currie, Richard Cole, and Kenneth Howell. It also contains special appearances by experts in the field of conversion such as Patrick Madrid and Donald Asci.

Ultimately, this is a story about finding truth, beauty, and fulfillment in an unexpected place, and then sacrificing to grab on to it. I think it will entertain and inspire you, and perhaps even give you a fresh perspective on an old faith.

(Excerpt) Read more at indiegogo.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Other Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; willconvertforfood
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To: Elsie

So, are you saying you know how God works it?

I believe he does. Though I’ll leave the details to Him.


3,001 posted on 10/22/2014 9:41:43 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: metmom

DING DING DING!

There’s our winner and 3000th customer of this thread! Let’s give a big round of applause to METMOM! YAAAAAAA-AAAAAAY!!!

Mom, if you would be so kind as to nail that winning post to the FR front door, we can all go home. Or somewhere else. To get some physical exercise!

R2z


3,002 posted on 10/22/2014 9:43:44 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: daniel1212

Quit posting facts, Luther invented anti-semitism despite the reality to the contrary.


3,003 posted on 10/22/2014 9:45:33 AM PDT by xone
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To: MamaB

The concept of the trinity comes from scripture. The hyperbol of Catholics comes from attempts to obfuscate the truth of scripture.


3,004 posted on 10/22/2014 9:46:19 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: daniel1212
I would ask other born again evangelicals if Luther was so important in their conversion or present faith that they feel their security threatened by attacks on him, as RCs do with attacks on their church or papacy. Or if their faith is based upon Scriptural substantiation, in word and in life, as in Scripture.

Luther had NOTHING to do with my conversion and salvation.

My security is not shaken by attacks on Luther as if when an RC shows Luther to be in the wrong, I will abandon my faith and become Catholic, or something ludicrous.

My faith is based on the true and sure and unchanging promises of God found in the divinely inspired word of God.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.

Galatians 3:6 just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?

3,005 posted on 10/22/2014 9:47:26 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Resettozero
>>Who wants to give the benediction to this thread?<<

The issues will just be taken up again in a different thread. We will be called to oppose the errors until Jesus takes us home.

3,006 posted on 10/22/2014 9:50:31 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Resettozero

No kidding.

Time to get out for a walk, although the weather is not really conducive for it.

It’s cloudy and cold. Yuck.


3,007 posted on 10/22/2014 9:50:53 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Resettozero

Maybe I could post it to the front door of the nearest Catholic church........


3,008 posted on 10/22/2014 9:51:44 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: CynicalBear
The issues will just be taken up again in a different thread. We will be called to oppose the errors until Jesus takes us home.

Cain't we just call down lighning on their computers!

Oh, now I remember: He admonished us for wishing that.
3,009 posted on 10/22/2014 9:53:25 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: JPX2011; MamaB
>>We have two faculties as Christians: Faith and Reason.<<

The distinct difference is that true followers of Christ put their faith in Him alone and Catholics put their faith in fallible men who even they admit are not infallible.

3,010 posted on 10/22/2014 9:54:50 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: af_vet_1981

Why are you so obsessed with carnal leadership? It absolutely cult like.


3,011 posted on 10/22/2014 9:57:56 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: metmom

When I became a Christian, i had not even heard that name. I was a young teenager. So, he had absolutely nothing to do with my salvation.


3,012 posted on 10/22/2014 10:00:25 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: af_vet_1981
Do you and your assembly agree with the Catholics and Lutherans concerning the baptism of infants

No, as the requirements for baptism is that of wholehearted repentant faith, (Acts 3:28; 8:36,37) and it is incongruous that an act of such cardinal importance by the Holy Spirit would provide even one clear example of infants being baptized, and it can only be speculated that whole household baptisms included children so young as to not be able to discern their need for forgiveness by faith in the Lord Jesus.

And circumcision has limited correspondence, and covenantal distinctions that do not equate to baptizing infants when they cannot believe, as personal belief is always in conversion.

However, there is a difference in baptizing an infant in holding that this makes them a partaker of the covenant, as some hold, versus imagining that this makes them regenerate and justified by inherent holinesss. And which regeneration is not empirically manifest as in Scripture and evangelical conversion, but basically it overall makes a mockery of Scriptural regeneration.

But it is your practice to go after side issues, while ignoring the main one. You went on at length justifying the right to execute men by spiritual means, when the issue was that of the use of the sword of men, and finally you were forced to give a clear rejection of the use of the latter by the church. But at least you did, which is more than some others would so.

And then you once again indicted Luther as being against the Jews, ignoring the precedent your own church provided, by popes no less, not a reformers, though you had been shown this in response to past one-sided indictments.

And here you want to focus in Prot. paedobaptism, while the issue was the RC preoccupation with Luther, and Rome's assured veracity and baptismal justification by ones own inherent holiness, thus leading to purgatory.

3,013 posted on 10/22/2014 10:07:18 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: CynicalBear
The distinct difference is that true followers of Christ put their faith in Him alone and Catholics put their faith in fallible men who even they admit are not infallible.

Uh huh. The problem with that polemical assertion is that protestants assume for themselves the authority to define what constitutes Him, attributing finite qualities according to their own personal preference. Hence the "alone" qualifier of which they are the arbiter. Belief in God as expressed via negative proposition is not belief at all.

3,014 posted on 10/22/2014 10:08:16 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Resettozero
>>Cain't we just call down lighning on their computers!<<

No!! We need them to post the errors and apostacy of Catholicism that we might address those errors with the truth of God's word. I for one have learned a great deal about the depths of the dangers of Catholicism and it's insidious corruption's of God's word.

3,015 posted on 10/22/2014 10:09:03 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: JPX2011
>>The problem with that polemical assertion is that protestants assume for themselves the authority to define what constitutes Him,<<

No, they don't "assume for themselves". True believers rely on the promises of Jesus about the indwelling of the Holy Spirit as counselor. That is something Catholics deny to their eternal detriment.

3,016 posted on 10/22/2014 10:15:00 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: metmom
That his theology and mine at times are the same, is irrelevant. It's certainly not because I follow him, but because by using the same Scripture, the Holy Spirit led born again believer will come to the same conclusions about passages in the Bible as each other.

That you were exposed to gospel truth can be somewhat credited to Luther's stand, but Scripture being supreme and justification by faith were not novel doctrines of Luther, and one can see that by simply reading Scripture. A soul today can read Acts 10:36-43 and have his/her purified by faith as the Gentiles there were, and be baptized as they were and follow the Lord by further knowing "the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus," being given by inspiration of God, and profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. (2 Timothy 3:16-17) (2 Timothy 3:15) Thanks be to God.

3,017 posted on 10/22/2014 10:16:02 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: xone
Quit posting facts, Luther invented anti-semitism despite the reality to the contrary.

!

3,018 posted on 10/22/2014 10:16:48 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: CynicalBear
No!! We need them to post the errors and apostacy of Catholicism that we might address those errors with the truth of God's word. I for one have learned a great deal about the depths of the dangers of Catholicism and it's insidious corruption's of God's word.

But they're just playin' us.

Well, okay then. I'll check back later. I've begun to feel this thread is like Groundhog Day, or an episode of Stargate SG-1 where the team is caught in a time loop starting at breakfast each time, or...maybe this is a preview of purgatory?
3,019 posted on 10/22/2014 10:18:27 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: CynicalBear
The issues will just be taken up again in a different thread. We will be called to oppose the errors until Jesus takes us home.

That is the way it has been. i see RCs who were refuted till they had no response, yet just parroted the same parroted polemic again. Maybe they do think they get an indulgence for posting propaganda.

3,020 posted on 10/22/2014 10:19:40 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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