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To: CynicalBear; JPX2011; metmom
Mystery? 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. What mystery?

The mystery is whether you affirm or deny that this verse is the inspired word of God. What say you ? If you say yes, you abandon Protestant/Evangelical/Other position and admit their new translations are false and do not include the entire inspired Bible. If you say no, you deny the KJV and Textus Receptus upon which it is based, admitting the Reformation never had a complete and correct Bible all these centuries, and may not now, depending on modern scholarship rather than. Received Text. Sola Scriptura is exposed as insufficient; Catholics do not have this problem, relying on both Scripture and Apostolic Tradition for truth.

2,988 posted on 10/22/2014 8:38:04 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
>>The mystery is whether you affirm or deny that this verse is the inspired word of God. What say you ?<<

Does it comport with other Scripture? Yes. Does it contradict any other scripture? No.

>>If you say yes, you abandon Protestant/Evangelical/Other position and admit their new translations are false and do not include the entire inspired Bible.<<

Nice try but it doesn't matter. There is no dispute about 1 John 5:7 because three are who are testifying in the heaven

So I will again say it comports with the rest of scripture. If you dispute the trinity just say so.

>>Sola Scriptura is exposed as insufficient;<<

No, it is not. It reinforces it. If we use scripture alone no one part can contradict another part. Each part supports the whole of scripture. Which BTW eliminates the apocrypha as they often disagree with the rest or have internal errors.

>>Catholics do not have this problem, relying on both Scripture and Apostolic Tradition for truth.<<

Catholics have a whole host of problems with their "traditions". Your "tradition" often contradicts scripture or is outright condemned by scripture.

2,992 posted on 10/22/2014 9:28:23 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: af_vet_1981

You’ll MUCH more straw for that man to stand on it’s own.


3,031 posted on 10/22/2014 10:37:45 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981

You’ll need MUCH more straw for that man to stand on it’s own.


3,032 posted on 10/22/2014 10:37:55 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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