Posted on 10/20/2014 7:37:34 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
I’ve always been taught that the two witnesses will be Enoch and Elijah because they never died.
This is not a huge point of contention and I’m not going to go to the mat arguing for it, but I’m just pointing out that there is a fair chunk of Christianity that may disagree.
Well, I’m going to have to go against the grain and agree with you.
God’s chosen people were displaced by the Christians, fulfilling the OT Covenant. Jews are rejectors of Christ, their temple was destroyed, their new religion is man-nade and they have no mechanism for salvation whatsoever.
Gog and Magog
Sorry, their conversion is their only hope for salvation.
Because NO WHERE is what you said in it.
Well then... what do you do with all of Almighty God’s promises for Israel? Isa. 2, Micah 4, Ezek 40-48, Romans 9-11; Deuteronomy 7:6-9; Isaiah 14:1-2; Isaiah 61:7-9; Joel 3:16 & Luke 1:32-33. Refer also to Genesis 17:8; Psalm 53:6 & Psalm 128:5-6.
God’s not done with Israel and Jesus Messiah will reign in Jerusalem in the future Psalm 2:6-9; Isaiah 2:2-4; Joel 3:17; Micah 4:1-3,7 & Zechariah 14:9,16-17. Refer also to Genesis 49:10; 2 Samuel 7:16; Psalm 50:2; Psalm 72:8; Psalm 110:2; Psalm 134:3; Psalm 135:21; Isaiah 9:7; Isaiah 11:9-10; Isaiah 24:23; Jeremiah 3:17; Jeremiah 31:6; Zechariah 2:10-12; Zechariah 8:3; Luke 1:31-33; John 12:13; Philippians 2:10-11 & Revelation 19:16.
I total agree.. many died and were raised again however... The key is to connect the dots and let Matt 17, Rev. 11:3-7 and Mal. 4 describe them to you.
Thanks friend
Zech. 12:10-14, Romans 11:10-12 They will if you believe what the Word of God teaches and not tradition.
The main thing is we concentrate on the main thing. . .Jesus is returning. . .Ready or Not http://www.patburt.com/
By the way Ignorant Fisherman. . .I don’t think you are so ignorant! :)
Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: Ezek. 38:2-3
Magog is a land, Gog a person
Are you talking about Replacement Theology?
Acts 4:12-13, 1 Cor. 1:18-31 The true definition of ignorance and wise!
True, True... and Amen! but it is fun trying to connect the dots of Scripture and I personally believe that He would have us to!
Thanks and God speed!!
God nath NOT cast away his (Jewish) people 9omans 11:1,2).... All Israel will be saved... Romans 11:26.
Respectfully,
fhc
1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Agreeing with me goes against the grain for you, lol?
Wow, a hard-nosed Replacement Theology Catholic on the thread, right off the bat. This is going to be interesting.
Willie is correct. There is no salvation for the Jews outside of Jesus Christ. They have no “mechanism for salvation,” even if they reestablish their temple and start slaughtering animals.
The only point of real debate that can be had is whether or not the Jews will be regathered at some point and converted in mass. That they are now, if unconverted, totally damned, cannot be questioned.
Romans 11:26-29 does not agree with your assessment.
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