Posted on 10/31/2014 7:05:11 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
A last-gasp 1960's liberal, finished seminary in 1969, ordained in 1970, long before JP II or BXVI. The guy's an antique.
In regards to elders (priests, etc), the scripture says, "Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest also may fear."
In regards to sexual immorality, the scripture says that anyone who rejects the commandment against sexual immorality has rejected God. 1 Thess 4:1-8.
Our pastor at my church brought up that even looking at another woman/man or fantasizing about them is adultery. Even if you are having sex with your spouse and you think about another person, you are sinning.
It's one of those quiet sins that people don't want to acknowledge. The focus is on Christians who condemn homosexuality but will continue to sin with their thoughts.
Well, there is that.
“The man needs to read the Bible and this”
He’s a radical liberal, probably homosexual priest that is snubbing his nose at the teachings of the Catholic Church. He feels emboldened by the Church’s new liberal pope. Cardinal O’Mally has known about this fruitcake for years and does nothing about it, because O’Malley is as liberal as he is.
So revoke it.
That at least, is an option that non-Catholic churches have and use.
He can and possibly will be defrocked, but seeing he’s been around for quite some time, this situation really doesn’t have much to do with the seminaries now.
In 2007, Jorge Mario Bergoglio, Cardinal of Buenos Aires, Argentina, invited the visiting Episcopal Bishop of California, William Swing, to bring his assorted syncretist colleagues to the Cathedral for an interfaith service with him. Swings group was part of the United Religions Initiative, and the purpose of the syncretic worship was to celebrate the URIs 10th anniversary of its installation in Latin America....
http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/4414cfe2eee76e5a00f3be03226bfcf2-260.html
Investigative reporter Lee Penn, a Catholic ex-Marxist, author of "False Dawn: The United Religions Initiative, Globalism, and the Quest for a One-World Religion" writes that the most ambitious organization in todays interfaith movement is the United Religions Initiative (URI), founded by William Swing, the Episcopal Bishop of California.
Penn argues that the URI is to a significant extent animated by New Age satanic-spirituality and adds that evolution (embraced by Francis) is absolutely central to New Age theology which is a syncretistic stew of Liberal Christianity, Theosophy, Spiritism, the Ancient Mysteries, Wicca, Goddess worship, and adulation of Lucifer. (False Dawn: The United Religions Initiative, Globalism, and the Quest for a One-World Religion, Lee Penn, p. 437)
The URI has attracted a disparate group of activists and powerful supporters. For example, the liberal Catholic theologian Hans Kung, the Dalai Lama, progressive churchmen from the People's Republic of China, pro-gay Episcopalians, radical Muslims, feminist witches, rich capitalist foundations, the Club of Rome, the Temple of Understanding and the Lucis Trust, formerly called Lucifer Publishing. Prominent supporters of the URI and globalism include occultist Robert Muller (former UN assistant secretary general), Neale Donald Walsh, George Soros, Mikhail Gorbachev, Maurice Strong, Ted Turner, and Barbara Marx Hubbard. (pp.5,7, 23-26)
New Age spirituality relies heavily on the spirit revelations channeled through Helena Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, Muller, Marx Hubbard, and Neale Donald Walsh. Penn notes that all together they form a comprehensive anti-Gospel setting forth a progressive vision of spiritualized totalitarianism that includes:
1. Praise for Lucifer as the light-bearer and giver of wisdom.
2. Proclaiming that we humans are gods and that death is not real
3. Advocacy for extreme population control, including eugenics and euthanasia
4. Utter contempt for traditional orthodox religions with concentrated scorn directed at Judaism, orthodox evangelical Protestantism, and orthodox Roman Catholicism
5. Forecasting a pending (and for them, desirable) "selection" of mankind, in which the progressives enter the New Age and the reactionaries face extinction. For the New Age Apostles of "progressive" Social Darwinism, these casualties are a necessary price to pay for human evolution." (ibid, p. 7)
Speaking through Hubbard, her spirit guide "Christ" prophesied in 1995 that the Rider of the Pale Horse will use the "sword" as one of his means to "kill those who choose to remain self-centered." (ibid, p. 322)
Strange isn't it, that behind the backs of feuding Protestants and Roman Catholics a massive interfaith leviathan consisting of progressive Roman Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, "gays," neo-pagans, occultists, etc. is positioning itself as the spiritual face of a globally socialist NWO?
Yeah. The new guys coming in are much, much more orthodox. My only concern is there aren’t enough of them.
Preparing the way for the anti-Christ.
The New Age Movement seems to be catching some very big fish of late.
That this stuff is tolerated even for 5 minutes much less 15 years is part of the reason I don’t consider myself to be a participating member of the current Church, but most definitely a full member of the pre-1960’s Church.
‘Should have already been defrocked.
Oh, wow. I have a gay Catholic relative who lives in Dedham and I always wondered why he went to church in Newton instead of going to the church literally down the street from his house in Dedham. Now I know.
And nothing will happen to him. Such is this “church.”
Who are we to judge?
In regards to elders (priests, etc), the scripture says, “Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest also may fear.”
...I do believe that the post you responded to was intended as snark, a mockery of Francis’ oft quoted remark...
As a student of Brandeis University, I am proud to have Father Walter Cuenin serving us as a compassionate and thoughtful spiritual leader.
May I remind everyone on this forum that Father Walter is the same priest who led 58 Catholic priests in calling for the resignation of Boston Archdiosese, Cardinal Bernard Law, for covering up sexual abuses in the Boston area for years by relocating abusive priests away from their parish and into new ones.
Father Walter is a good man who deserves better than the uncivil and, quite frankly, offensive rhetoric used in many of the above comments.
See Boston Globe article (2002): http://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2014/02/23/will-pope-francis-dramatically-different-tone-enough/FzuRw8ulUYkGSka0Z0mytI/story.html
Maybe it's his giant rainbow flag that's obscuring the view. Last time I checked, homosexual propaganda is not included on the list of Catholic sacramentals.
Religion changes as society changes. Historians have observed this over the past thousand years.
I’ll assume that you are a well informed Catholic follower. So you must know all about the Holy Inquisition, and the numerous forms of violent and grotesque torture that the Catholic Church endorsed as fear tactics to prevent the practice of alternative religions and social values.
Where were Christs teachings while hundreds of thousands of unbelievers were being stretched, flayed, and tortured in a number of other ways?
Would you say that these practices were correct and in line with your moral values?
The point I am making is that in the grand scheme of things, I believe that love and acceptance of others is infinitely more virtuous than hate and discrimination.
I believe that Father Walter agrees with this sentiment, and perhaps the silent majority of Catholics do too!
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