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To: CynicalBear
Mary was the new Ark of the Covenant, the Tabernacle that held our Savior.

Rev.11:19 Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of His covenant was seen within His temple, and there were flashes of lightening, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake and heavy hail.

Rev. 12:1 And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child. ... [S]he brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron.

We know that after the crucifixion Mary was cared for by the apostle John (Jn 19:26-27). Early Christian writings say John went to live at Ephesus and that Mary accompanied him. There is some dispute about where she ended her life, perhaps there, perhaps back at Jerusalem. Neither of these cities nor any other claimed her remains, although there are claims about possessing her (temporary) tomb. Why did no city claim the bones of Mary? Apparently because there were no bones to claim, and people knew it. -Dr. Stackpole

75 posted on 11/24/2014 1:31:10 PM PST by GreensKeeperWillie (Sancte Maria, mater Dei, ora pro nobis.)
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To: GreensKeeperWillie
>>Mary was the new Ark of the Covenant, the Tabernacle that held our Savior.<<

I know that Catholics desperately need that to be so but alas it is false. For many reasons it CAN NOT be Mary but Catholics may want to consider this.

Jeremiah 3:16 And it hath come to pass, when ye are multiplied, And have been fruitful in the land, In those days -- an affirmation of Jehovah, They say not any more, 'The ark of the covenant of Jehovah,' Nor doth it go up on the heart, Nor do they remember concerning it, Nor do they inspect, nor is it made again.

>>Rev. 12:1<<

The woman in Revelation 12 can in no way be Mary. It's the nation of Israel. The twisting of scripture by Catholics in an attempt to make that woman Mary is comical and total corruption of scripture.

>>Apparently because there were no bones to claim<<

"Apparently"? You base your eternal destiny on conjecture or lack of evidence?

Once again we see Catholics holding a belief that is not based on solid teaching in scripture and is not taught by the apostles.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

The prominence that the belief in the assumption of Mary holds in the Catholic belief system contradicts the teaching of the apostles rather than holds to their teaching. Paul said that if someone teaches something they didn't that teacher was to be considered accursed.

87 posted on 11/24/2014 4:10:57 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: GreensKeeperWillie

Quote-Rev. 12:1 And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child. ... [S]he brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron.

That vision is a rather interesting astronomical event if one studies His sky and His calendar.

It is a particular day on our Heavenly Father’s calendar- when the sun clothes the woman constellation,and the moon appears under her feet..

It is the Birth day for the Messiah of Israel, an appointed time.. a new moon day.

Nowhere near December 25.

But Rome calls the shots on christian worship and the world’s calendar so His appointed times are being substituted for Roman days..

Prophetic given times and laws were going to be changed in Daniel 7..

Maybe Christianity is all counterfeit..


89 posted on 11/24/2014 7:26:35 PM PST by delchiante
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To: GreensKeeperWillie; CynicalBear
Early Christian writings say John went to live at Ephesus and that Mary accompanied him. There is some dispute about where she ended her life, perhaps there, perhaps back at Jerusalem. Neither of these cities nor any other claimed her remains, although there are claims about possessing her (temporary) tomb. Why did no city claim the bones of Mary? Apparently because there were no bones to claim, and people knew it. -Dr. Stackpole

Well, there's desperation if I ever saw it.

Maybe there were no bones to claim because some people actually believe that the dead should rest in peace.

Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack.

128 posted on 11/25/2014 5:07:26 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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