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To: CatherineofAragon
Let me get this straight. You say every source that brings Murray's errors to light is "politically correct.", despite the fact that many of them are evangelical and likely the opposite of PC.

Yes, they are politically correct. All the big ones.

It's all about Murray with you, it seems. He said something, so it's Gospel. Why would you take the word of one man against all of Christendom and believe he's correct?

It's all about taking a man's pastoral teachings and checking them out in the Word and by observation. I disagree with Arnold on a lot of things, as the last few posts here shows. I'd say John of Patmos was the last prophet, not John the Baptist (maybe Arnold meant John of Patmos but accidentally said John the Baptist). I agree with Arnold about 90% of the time, about the same as Rush.

When you start thinking that everyone is against the person you admire, and that he's never wrong but everyone else IS, you have the makings of a cult of personality, and that is a problem. Do you not see this?

I will openly agree with Arnold's critics when they're right, as I have on this thread the last few posts. No cult of personality here.

See, it's not about popularity. None of this is personal, yet you apparently take it as an "Arnold against the world" type of thing.

When some resort to purposeful lies, yes it's personal.

Christianity doesn't teach that only 7000 will stand firm against the AntiChrist; yet Murray claims it and you accept it. Why?

Because it is written in Rom 11:4

I wonder if his followers were afraid he would launch into one of his angry tirades against them, and call them losers, yo-yos, idiots, etc., as he did with all of his detractors. Fine Christian witness, that.

I love it when he does that! He tried to pull his gun on a disruptor one time, it was great. lol

782 posted on 11/29/2014 1:16:12 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

What “big ones?” If you mean Mainline Protestant churches, I’d agree with you.

But we’re talking conservative evangelical sites which document Murray’s errors in great detail. The PC accusation doesn’t wash.

Murray’s teachings clearly contradict Christian doctrine, but you’re in deep, so I doubt anyone here is going to make you see sense.

You love it when a so-called man of God insulted people for disagreeing with him?

For pulling a gun on a critic?

Dude, I’m not kidding....you need de-programming in the worst way.


787 posted on 11/29/2014 1:23:05 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Partisan Gunslinger; CatherineofAragon
I will openly agree with Arnold's critics when they're right, as I have on this thread the last few posts. No cult of personality here.

>>I wonder if his followers were afraid he would launch into one of his angry tirades against them, and call them losers, yo-yos, idiots, etc., as he did with all of his detractors. Fine Christian witness, that.<<

I love it when he does that! He tried to pull his gun on a disruptor one time, it was great. lol

Would you have the courage to directly confront Murray about those 10% of things you disagree with him? How would being called a loser, yo-yo, idiot, etc. make YOU feel? Would you LOL it off as great??? Somehow, he doesn't strike me as a person that appreciates being disagreed with. Would he say you were disqualified from being in his select 7000 because you weren't 100% convinced???

809 posted on 11/29/2014 8:38:38 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger; CatherineofAragon
Because it is written in Rom 11:4

Exegesis is very important. Is Paul specifically pointing to a future time where 7000 stand strong against antichrist? No he is not looking at the verse literally, plainly.

Using your own metric of "verse by verse, chapter by chapter, book by book" where else in the NT do we see clear evidence of a 7000 number of stand outs?

819 posted on 11/29/2014 10:07:53 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
Christianity doesn't teach that only 7000 will stand firm against the AntiChrist; yet Murray claims it and you accept it. Why?

Specifically the Scriptures do not teach such.

820 posted on 11/29/2014 10:10:17 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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