[cherry]

and you my friend are speaking of times when the govt's of certain countries basically owned the church, and vice versa....

ever hear of Thomas More?...

[Iscool]

and you my friend are speaking of times when the govt's of certain countries basically owned the church, and vice versa....

Military, political and civil authorities and religions were controlled by the Catholic religion...For Centuries...

The papal deposing power was the most powerful tool of the political authority claimed by and on behalf of the Roman Pontiff, in medieval and early modern thought, amounting to the assertion of the Pope's power to declare a Christian monarch heretical and powerless to rule.

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