Yes, do you know of any? Since Protestants won’t ask you about “sleep” in the Bible, or about whether or not any souls are now in Heaven, or if Paradise is Heaven, there doesn’t seem to be many on the Protestant side of things here.
I don’t expect that to change. The formal but deceptive lock-step uniformity of Protestant anti-Catholics must be maintained after all.
Time for a Bible Mary vs Catholic Mary TRUCE!
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/VxlKZereog0?rel=0
Yup; when 30,000 or 41,000 or even 80,000 march; the world trembles beneath our feet!
Yeah, I guess pronouncing anathemas against anyone who disagrees with Catholicism isn't considered lock step, uniformity.
The Catholic church threatens anyone who disagrees with them with hell. For those Catholics who disagree with RC teaching, they are considered to have self-ex-communicated. Why? Because they didn't follow Catholic teaching lockstep.
And they think Prots are lock step? What a joke.....
I'll give you a pass on this one, Vlad, because, unlike Mary and the Saints, you can't be everywhere and know everything. Elsie and I, as well as others, HAVE discussed our disagreement with each other on this topic. And guess what? It was civil and respectful. That's the beautiful thing about those areas called "nonessential" and "disputable matters". Rather than these differences being cause for schism, they are viewed as areas where a Christian CAN be "fully persuaded in his own mind" and there is a freedom in Christ.
This happens within Roman Catholicism in spite of the oft-touted "unity" Catholics supposedly enjoy. On these Religion Forums, for example, I've seen disagreements AMONG Roman Catholics over what Purgatory even is. There is much gray area within the doctrines of Catholicism that even the Catechism fails to define. So if one Catholic believes Purgatory is a momentary "cleaning station" prior to entrance into heaven where NOBODY suffers torment, and another believes Purgatory is a place as bad as hell and people DO suffer painful torment while their sins are purged from their souls and can last thousands of years, does it mean Catholicism is in schism? Or, can you admit there are disputable matters in your church as well?
We aren't talking about the "essential" tenets of the Christian faith such as those extrapolated within the Nicean creed, for example, but areas where Scripture doesn't spell out specifically what is to be believed. I happen to believe Jesus led those in Paradise (Abraham's bosom) to heaven when he went to the lower parts of the earth after his crucifixion. I believe those who have died in faith are present with the Lord in their spirit/soul condition and will receive their glorified bodies at the time Christ returns to take up His bride prior to the Tribulation. Elsie has said he believes people's soul/spirit sleeps in death and do not have any consciousness within the presence of God until the resurrection when all receive glorified bodies (I hope I got that right, Elsie). He has reasons from Scripture for believing that just as I have for what I believe, but the Scriptures don't specifically spell that part out either way. These difference aren't ignored as if we have to pretend we are all in lockstep uniformity (like RCs often do), they are discussed and we may end up agreeing to disagree, preferring to not allow it to effect our fellowship in Christ. Why not try it?