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Sorry, Fido. Pope Francis did NOT say our pets are going to heaven
RNS ^ | December 12, 2014 | David Gibson

Posted on 12/13/2014 2:52:13 PM PST by NYer

(RNS) When Pope Francis recently sought to comfort a distraught boy whose dog had died, the pontiff took the sort of pastoral approach he is famous for — telling the youngster not to worry, that he would one day see his pet in heaven.

“Paradise is open to all of God’s creatures,” Francis said reassuringly.

Pope Francis greets a crowd on his way to a meeting with cardinals at the Vatican on Feb. 21, 2014. RNS photo by David Gibson

Pope Francis greets a crowd on his way to a meeting with cardinals at the Vatican on Feb. 21, 2014. RNS photo by David Gibson

It was a sparkling moment on a rainy November day, and the setting in St. Peter’s Square only burnished Francis’ reputation as a kindly “people’s pope.” The story naturally lit up social media, became instant promotional material for vegetarians and animal rights groups, and on Friday even made it to the front page of The New York Times.

There’s only one problem: apparently none of it ever happened.

Yes, a version of that quotation was uttered by a pope, but it was said decades ago by Paul VI, who died in 1978. There is no evidence that Francis repeated the words during his public audience on Nov. 26, as has been widely reported, nor was there was a boy mourning his dead dog.

So how could such a fable so quickly become taken as fact?

Part of the answer may be the topic of the pope’s talk to the crowd that day, which centered on the End Times and the transformation of all creation into a “new heaven” and a “new earth.” Citing St. Paul in the New Testament, Francis said that is not “the annihilation of the cosmos and of everything around us, but the bringing of all things into the fullness of being.”

The trail of digital bread crumbs then appears to lead to an Italian news report that extended Francis’ discussion of a renewed creation to the question of whether animals too will go to heaven.

“One day we will see our pets in the eternity of Christ,” the report quoted Paul VI as telling a disconsolate boy years ago.

The story was titled, somewhat misleadingly: “Paradise for animals? The Pope doesn’t rule it out.” It wasn’t clear which pope the writer meant, however.

The next day, Nov. 27, a story in the Italian daily Corriere della Sera by veteran Vaticanista Gian Guido Vecchi pushed the headline further: “The Pope and pets: “Paradise is open to all creatures.”

Vecchi faithfully recounted the pope’s talk about a new creation, and also cited Paul VI’s remark.

But the headline put those words in Francis’ mouth, and that became the story.

The Italian version of the Huffington Post picked it up next and ran an article quoting Francis as saying “We will go to heaven with the animals” and contending that the pope was quoting St. Paul – not Pope Paul – as making that statement to console a boy who lost his dog. (That story, by the way, is nowhere in the Bible.)

The urban legend became unstoppable a week later when it was translated into English and picked up by the British press, which cited St. Paul as saying that “One day we will see our animals again in (the) eternity of Christ,” while it has Francis adding the phrase: “Paradise is open to all God’s creatures.”

Fueling the meme was the fact that Francis was photographed accepting a gift of two donkeys from a company promoting the use of donkey milk for infants allergic to cow’s milk – and Francis said his own mother gave him donkey’s milk as a baby.

Social media and other media outlets then picked up the story, further conflating the statements and the chronology. It became a hot mess of a story that was also sparking another theological debate by a pope who was known for prompting controversy.


The New York Times was the biggest of several outlets relating an apparently apocryphal tale about pets, paradise, and Pope Francis.

When The New York Times went with the story, along with input from ethicists and theologians, it became gospel truth.

Television programs discussed the pope’s theological breakthrough, news outlets created photo galleries of popes with cute animals, and others used it as a jumping off point to discuss what other religions think about animals and the afterlife. At America magazine, the Rev. James Martin wrote an essay discussing the theological implications of Francis’ statements and what level of authority they may have. It was all very interesting and illuminating, but based on a misunderstanding.

A number of factors probably contributed to this journalistic train wreck:

In most accounts, Francis’ comments were also set against statements by his predecessor, Benedict XVI, who insisted that animals did not have souls. That apparent contrast fit a common narrative pitting the more conservative Benedict against the ostensibly liberal Francis.

That may be true in some areas, but probably not when it comes to animals.

Adding insult to injury, the Times article cited St. John Paul II as saying in 1990 that animals have souls and are “as near to God as men are.” But that, too, was a misquote, as media critic Dawn Eden explained at the website GetReligion.

On the other hand, there should have been warnings signs: Francis has frowned at the modern tendency to favor pets over people, and he has criticized the vast amounts of money spent by wealthy societies on animals even as children go hungry.

In addition, the pope’s huge popularity has led to at least one other instance of myth-making: news reports last year said that Francis was sneaking out of the Vatican at night to feed the homeless around Rome.

The pope personally debunked that rumor in an interview last March, saying the idea “has never crossed my mind” and that “depicting the pope to be a sort of superman, a type of star, seems offensive to me.”

Maybe he’ll have to give another interview to deflate this latest story, and to offer his real thoughts on pets and paradise.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: heaven; mistranslated; pets
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21 posted on 12/13/2014 3:25:55 PM PST by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: NYer
I am freaking STUNNED by all the attention this is getting. Meanwhile our country is going to Hell, the Mohammedans are coming from us. Really dog going to heaven or not is our greatest concern?

BTW, prayers warriors our grand-nephew, one of the Marines is leaving for deployment. We know not where. Thanks for the prayers in advance.

22 posted on 12/13/2014 3:28:52 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: NYer

Well, I’m glad that’s straightened out. It was an embarrassment to think he said it...


23 posted on 12/13/2014 3:29:54 PM PST by babygene
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To: spacejunkie2001

Exactly, although I hope that beloved animals will be allowed. If not, we are very blessed for the time we have with them in this life.


24 posted on 12/13/2014 3:34:09 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: MUDDOG

Who Let The Dogs Out?, Woof, Woof Woof Woof!


25 posted on 12/13/2014 3:35:46 PM PST by lee martell
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To: defconw

“Meanwhile our country is going to Hell, the Mohammedans are coming from us. Really dog going to heaven or not is our greatest concern?”

I don’t know, but if dogs DO go to Heaven, guess who it will REALLY pis$$ off!!!!!! Needless to say, I like the idea.


26 posted on 12/13/2014 3:36:43 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name
If the dog is there when I get there, AWESOME, if not I doubt it will matter. If we want to get all metaphysical. My dog is in my soul. So when I die,and my soul goes to heaven it makes sense that in that sense the dog would be in heaven.

No priest ever will tell a distraught little child that their dog is not going to heaven. They just are not going to do that. But as adults we should be able to handle the possibility that something that is not capable of reason will have no need of heaven.

27 posted on 12/13/2014 3:49:53 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: NYer

Well, what does the Bible say regarding animals in Heaven?

Romans 8

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

According to the Word of God...Your dog, cat, hamster, canary, etc., is in Heaven.


28 posted on 12/13/2014 4:04:37 PM PST by bimboeruption (REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI!)
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To: Larry Lucido

Remind me of rap song who let the dogs out LOL!


29 posted on 12/13/2014 4:08:03 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: GreyFriar

I like this explanation: http://bswett.com/1968-05Fluffy.html


30 posted on 12/13/2014 4:08:52 PM PST by zot
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To: NYer

There are a lot of lazy, stupid journalists out there, and some of the laziest and stupidest work the religion beat.


31 posted on 12/13/2014 4:14:04 PM PST by RichInOC ("Catholic doctrine and discipline may be walls; but they are the walls of a playground."--GKC)
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To: bimboeruption

>> “According to the Word of God...Your dog, cat, hamster, canary, etc., is in Heaven.” <<

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What god do you worship?

Gaia?

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32 posted on 12/13/2014 4:14:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: zot; NYer; Salvation

Thank you for posting the story of ‘Fluffy the Wheep.’


33 posted on 12/13/2014 4:15:05 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: editor-surveyor

I guess you didn’t read my entire post.


34 posted on 12/13/2014 4:16:49 PM PST by bimboeruption (REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI!)
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To: spacejunkie2001

>> “Not sure if our specific pets go to heaven but the Bible is very clear that animals are with us in eternity.” <<

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Scripture please!

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35 posted on 12/13/2014 4:17:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: bimboeruption

Your eisegisis fails to make your dreams come true.

Try again, no cigar.


36 posted on 12/13/2014 4:20:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

And from what theological seminary did you get your degree?


37 posted on 12/13/2014 4:22:50 PM PST by bimboeruption (REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI!)
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To: NYer

My question to all Christians is this -

Exactly who will reside on the NEW earth?

Where did the notion originate from that all faithful Christians will go to heaven?

Isaiah 11:6 says this -

International Standard Version
“The wolf will live with the lamb; the leopard will lie down with the young goat. The calf and the lion will graze together, and a little child will lead them.

I don’t believe there has been a period in the history of the world where this has occurred, so it must fortell the future.

Now, check out Isaiah 65:20 - 21

…20”No longer will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, Or an old man who does not live out his days; For the youth will die at the age of one hundred And the one who does not reach the age of one hundred Will be thought accursed. 21”They will build houses and inhabit them; They will also plant vineyards and eat their fruit. 22”They will not build and another inhabit, They will not plant and another eat; For as the lifetime of a tree, so will be the days of My people, And My chosen ones will wear out the work of their hands.…

The preceding verses come after Isaiah 65:17, which references creation of a new heavens and a new earth.

Isaiah 65:22 must also fortell the future since it is not referring to homebuilders, but those who have been judged as righteous.

Not sure how anyone could think animals could go to heaven after reading Isaiah 11:6


38 posted on 12/13/2014 4:23:31 PM PST by 82nd Bragger (Count to four except when in a helicopter)
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To: NYer

39 posted on 12/13/2014 4:26:35 PM PST by matt1234 (Slay the beast.)
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To: bimboeruption

I do not believe that there will be many theological seminary grads, maybe none at all, on the sea of fire and glass.

God’s word is clear, so they go to be with their own kind at seminary: Unbelievers who trash the word.


40 posted on 12/13/2014 4:27:03 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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