Posted on 12/13/2014 2:52:13 PM PST by NYer
Isaiah 11:6 speaks of the millennial reign.
That is on Earth, not the “new Earth.”
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Your tag line tells me everything I need to know about you.
If so, does that change your opinion on wanting to end up there?
Yes, it says that I understand you more than you’d like me to.
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“Not sure how anyone could think animals could NOT go to heaven after reading Isaiah 11:6”
I’m guessing you meant NOT. God meant the Garden of Eden to be “heaven” - for Him to live with us (He walked among them). And before the fall - all of the animals and humans were vegetarian - the Lion DID lay down with the lamb.
After the fall, the first thing God did was kill an animal (a sacrifice as it were) to provide clothing for Adam and Eve (an act of compassion by Him). He also gave them permission to use and eat the animals.
I think the new heaven and the new earth will be very similar to what we have now - only perfect.
Isaiah 11:6 speaks of the millennial reign.
That is on Earth, not the “new Earth.”
Be that as it may, Isaiah 60:21 states, “Then all your people will be righteous and they will possess the land forever. They are the shoot I have planted, the work of my hands, for the display of my splendor.”
Clearly, the vast majority of the righteous will remain on planet earth, as indicated by the phrase ‘they will possess the land forever’. God’s original purpose for mankind has not changed since Adam.
Isn’t this talking about humans?
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Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
2Peter 3:
[7] But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
[8] But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
[9] The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
[10] But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
[11] Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
[12] Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
[13] Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
>> “Isn’t this talking about humans?” <<
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Yes,it definitely is!
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“Not sure how anyone could think animals could NOT go to heaven after reading Isaiah 11:6”
I’m guessing you meant NOT. God meant the Garden of Eden to be “heaven” - for Him to live with us (He walked among them). And before the fall - all of the animals and humans were vegetarian - the Lion DID lay down with the lamb.
After the fall, the first thing God did was kill an animal (a sacrifice as it were) to provide clothing for Adam and Eve (an act of compassion by Him). He also gave them permission to use and eat the animals.
I think the new heaven and the new earth will be very similar to what we have now - only perfect.
I’d be careful with the notion that the Garden of Eden was a sort of ‘heaven on earth’, unless you have a scriptural reference. God’s living with us doesn’t necessarily imply he intends to merge heaven with earth. After all, the verse only says he will make a new heaven and earth. What would be the point in saying that when he could have easily just said, “Look, I’m making a new heaven”. Only then could you infer heaven and earth would be merged. Just because God walked with Adam doesn’t mean Adam heard anything more than footsteps and felt God’s presence. I’m leaning towards the literal interpretation that in the beginning there were two realms, and Isaiah talks about two realms in the future.
Isaiah 65:17 “See, I will create
new heavens and a new earth.
The former things will not be remembered,
nor will they come to mind.
18 But be glad and rejoice forever
in what I will create,
for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight
and its people a joy.
19 I will rejoice over Jerusalem
and take delight in my people;
the sound of weeping and of crying
will be heard in it no more.
20 “Never again will there be in it
an infant who lives but a few days,
or an old man who does not live out his years;
the one who dies at a hundred
will be thought a mere child;
the one who fails to reach[a] a hundred
will be considered accursed.
21 They will build houses and dwell in them;
they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
22 No longer will they build houses and others live in them,
or plant and others eat.
For as the days of a tree,
so will be the days of my people;
my chosen ones will long enjoy
the work of their hands.
23 They will not labor in vain,
nor will they bear children doomed to misfortune;
for they will be a people blessed by the Lord,
they and their descendants with them.
24 Before they call I will answer;
while they are still speaking I will hear.
25 The wolf and the lamb will feed together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox,
and dust will be the serpent’s food.
They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,”
says the Lord.
No one will remain on Earth!
Please read Isaiah 65:17. There will a new heaven and earth created. Then read Isaiah 65:21-22. Who will build houses, animals? If you remain convinced that no humans will inhabit planet earth, that would be tantamount to call Isaiah a false prophet, and who inspired all scripture?
21 They will build houses and dwell in them;
they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
22 No longer will they build houses and others live in them,
or plant and others eat.
LOL. You might need to restate it a few thousand times to overcome what the vast majority of churches have been saying. Hopefully, the Freepers who care to contemplate Isaiah 65:21 could ask themselves ONE simple question:
If I possess a spiritual body, what need would I have for a home, since I’m not subject to the elements?
That chapter appears to mix two periods.
There will be no death in the new Jerusalem; all will have incorruptible bodies there.
Most of the chapter appears to discuss the Millennial reign of Yeshua on this Earth, where there will be death.
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