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To: CynicalBear; ealgeone; redleghunter; Elsie; Salvation; Mrs. Don-o; metmom; JPX2011

Everyone is now taking turn asking the same question?

The two foundational counterscriptural errors of Protestantism are the “Sola Scriptura” and “Sola Fide”. Neither is in the scripture and the scripture teaches the opposite, plainly. Form Matthew 16 we learn that the Church is the complete rule of faith; from James 2 we learn that men are not saved by faith alone.


2,717 posted on 12/21/2014 5:00:11 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex; CynicalBear; metmom

James 2:

23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.(KJV)

Can you explain why James stated the above after discussing dead faith and works?

Or do you see James refuting the body of epistles Paul wrote. I would say no James is not because God does not cause confusion. So when we apply expository examination we see James is discussing works which accompanies regeneration. For only good fruit comes from a good tree.

For as Paul said if our salvation is of works then it is no longer Grace that saves.

Romans 11:

5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.


2,737 posted on 12/21/2014 8:26:48 PM PST by redleghunter (... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
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To: annalex; CynicalBear; ealgeone; redleghunter; Elsie; Salvation; Mrs. Don-o; metmom; JPX2011
The two foundational counterscriptural errors of Protestantism are the “Sola Scriptura” and “Sola Fide”. Neither is in the scripture and the scripture teaches the opposite, plainly. Form Matthew 16 we learn that the Church is the complete rule of faith; from James 2 we learn that men are not saved by faith alone.

You are wrong on BOTH counts! We have the writings of many of the early church fathers that attest to the sufficiency of God's sacred and inspired word and their intrinsic authority as well as the doctrine of justification by faith alone. These two "solas" are HARDLY Reformation-invented doctrines. Here are but a few of the MANY places one can read them for themselves:

http://turretinfan.blogspot.com/2011/07/justification-by-faith-alone.html

http://carm.org/early-church-and-faith-alone

http://www.apuritansmind.com/justification/the-early-church-and-justification-compiled-by-dr-c-matthew-mcmahon/

http://www.equip.org/article/justification-the-catholic-protestant-argument-over-justification/

2,747 posted on 12/21/2014 9:15:37 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: annalex
Neither is in the scripture and the scripture teaches the opposite, plainly.

Oh?

Like the Mary doctrine your chosen religion teaches?

2,766 posted on 12/22/2014 5:09:53 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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