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Atheist Group Erects 11 Billboards Across Chicago; Argues That Kindness 'Comes From Altruism'
Christian Post ^ | 12/18/2014 | Stoyan Zaimov

Posted on 12/18/2014 7:35:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Boogieman
If that is true, then we are no different than animals. Yet, we can see that is not the case, because we possess attributes that animals cannot. So something must make us different, and that thing must not be possessed by creatures which are nearly biologically identical to us.

As humans we have a natural born yearning to seek out something greater beyond ourselves, something greater than we are.

We are the only creatures who go out and try to find something greater than ourselves, to try to transcend our existence. No other animal thinks that way. All animals wish to survive, true, but only humans wish to transcend. Only humans try to seek out and find God.

81 posted on 12/18/2014 10:59:58 AM PST by Gideon7
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To: Boogieman
You want to talk about drugs, do it on the drug thread. Following people to other threads to continue arguments is against FR forum rules.

Part of the reason you do not grasp my arguments is because you see these two topics as two separate issues.

They are not separate at all. They are both merely components of the larger attack by the forces of evil against normal society.

We are seeing people push for Drugs, for Homosexuality, for Abortion, for stealing money under the guise of socialism, for numerous and sundry aspects of the war against good by the forces of evil.

There is a larger battle going on here, and if you think all these issues are not part of a united front against God and Society, then you need to open your eyes and take a long look at the bigger picture.

All of this stuff is coordinated to advance evil, including your desire to legalize mind altering drugs which cause brain damage in young people.

You need to figure out which side of this war you are going to be supporting.

82 posted on 12/18/2014 11:00:39 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: ConservingFreedom
The 'reasoning' behind the existing pot criminalization is that unemployed Prohibitionists whipped up a frenzy about crazy Mexicans and white-woman-seducing Negro jazz listeners - a 'problem' every bit as bogus as globull warming, and manufactured for the same reason: more power.

Nope. That's just pro-pot propaganda. You may be surprised to discover that the forces of evil will lie to you about such things. Lying is what they do. You need to stop believing and repeating lies from people with an agenda.

One of their best techniques is making people THINK they understand something. We are witnessing these atheists right now who THINK they understand what they are doing too. They can match your pro-drug propaganda with anti-Christian propaganda of their own, and they will also tell you that it's true.

They will point out the Crusades and the Inquisition, and the various wars in Europe. They will point out the Salem Witch Trials. They will put forth all sorts of assertions as to why Christianity is evil and bad, and needs to be eliminated. Never doubt that it all links back to the father of lies.

83 posted on 12/18/2014 11:06:47 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
That's just pro-pot propaganda.

This is your golden opportunity to point me and other readers toward the truth. The only reason I can think of for you not to seize that opportunity is that you're full of hot air and think everyone should simply accept your say-so.

84 posted on 12/18/2014 11:12:50 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
legalize mind altering drugs which cause brain damage in young people.

Since well before any state had legalized pot, teens have reported that they could get it more easily than beer or cigarettes ... which is to be expected since legal sellers card and illegal sellers don't. Thanks for raising this pro-legalization point!

85 posted on 12/18/2014 11:15:33 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
And they get handed ammunition every time a Christian claims that it's proper to use the force of government to mandate Christian standards of non-rights-violating behavior such as (supposedly) not smoking pot.

By people like you who falsely or ignorantly make such charges.

Are you saying that no Christian has ever claimed that it's proper to use the force of government to mandate Christian standards of non-rights-violating behavior such as (supposedly) not smoking pot.

86 posted on 12/18/2014 11:17:33 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Part of the reason you do not grasp my arguments is because you see these two topics as two separate issues.”

It doesn’t matter that you think the issues are connected. You are violating the forum rules, and if you insist on continuing to do it, I’ll have to inform the mods:

“Don’t jump threads - If you get involved in an argument in one thread, it’s considered poor manners to restart the previous argument in the middle of an unrelated thread.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/help.htm#guidelines


87 posted on 12/18/2014 11:19:16 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: arbitrary.squid

No. Unless one religion wants to wipe all other religions off the face of the earth. Like Islam.


88 posted on 12/18/2014 11:42:22 AM PST by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Okay. I’ll play, Mr. Cara.

Tell me this: Where does altruism come from?


89 posted on 12/18/2014 11:57:17 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: WayneS

RE: Tell me this: Where does altruism come from?

I’ve asked a few atheists this question. One very common answer is this -— EVOLUTION VIA NATURAL SELECTION.

Homo sapiens naturally “evolved” the ability to be altruistic because natural selection subtly directs this impulse towards altruism in order for the human specie to survive.


90 posted on 12/18/2014 12:00:51 PM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: Boogieman
"If that is true, then we are no different than animals."

And if there's no God, that's absolutely right. We merely have a more developed system of conditioned responses based on purely physicalogical processes in the chemical reeations of our brains. This is absolutely what the behaviorists believe. This is what B.F. Skinner taught and he has a wide school of academics who follow this. They don't believe in a soul, just predetermined chemical reactions that always work the same way. The same thing we call instinct in an animal. Yet, I know there is a difference - a soul and spirit created in the image of God. That is what makes us human and God is who creates objective ethical norms which are as "real" or "true" as gravity itself.

91 posted on 12/18/2014 12:01:28 PM PST by circlecity
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To: SeekAndFind

Except that flies in the face of the rest of their Darwinist dogma, namely “survival of the fittest”


92 posted on 12/18/2014 12:19:51 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Boogieman
If you get involved in an argument in one thread, it’s considered poor manners to restart the previous argument in the middle of an unrelated thread.”

The two issues are related. In both cases groups want to tear down the existing social structure and replace it with another one without proper consideration of what will happen if they are successful.

I think some people use the term "wreckers." Both topics are about "Wreckers."

93 posted on 12/18/2014 12:51:14 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Boogieman
You want to talk about drugs, do it on the drug thread. Following people to other threads to continue arguments is against FR forum rules.

Most pot advocates are not real big on following the rules, or the laws for that matter.

Apart from that, I don't think i'm breaking the rules. I see these two issues as intimately related. They are both examples of people trying to wreck existing society and replace it with something worse.

Also in both cases, people are oblivious to the long term consequences of what they are attempting.

94 posted on 12/18/2014 1:00:25 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: SeekAndFind
Homo sapiens naturally “evolved” the ability to be altruistic because natural selection subtly directs this impulse towards altruism in order for the human specie to survive.

Yes, among members of the same species\race\family. Evolution does *NOT* teach us tolerance for members of different races or families, it teaches us to wipe them out or enslave them lest they become a threat to us.

Nature is very tribalistic. It is Christianity which has taught us to love our unrelated Brethren as though they were a member of our own family. It was Christianity which drove out slavery, whereas evolutionary theory would have found it perfectly acceptable.

95 posted on 12/18/2014 1:06:42 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: SeekAndFind

So without God, who’s to say that kindness is good?


96 posted on 03/01/2015 1:20:20 PM PST by FNU LNU (Nothing runs like a Deere, nothing smells like a john)
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