Posted on 12/19/2014 1:30:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind
well, no.
For all have sinned and fall short,
Jesus was born under the law and subject to it.
Galatians 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
We are NOT under the law.
Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Galatians 3:23 Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed.
The law was a tutor or guardian but we are no longer under that tutor.
Galatians 3:25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
But I suppose if you are not led by the Spirit you would still be under the law and feel a need to teach it.
Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
I pray that one day soon you will put your faith in Christ who redeemed us from the law.
Galatians 4:4 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
That in fact is the word of God.
TRUE. But we are to TRY. We will fall down. He will forgive us, but then, go and sin no more. Obedience is necessary. Many confuse works not being salvific with works not being necessary...
You had better look at when He said that would happen and to who.
Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
After what days? After the days of the tribulation when the nation of Israel will accept Christ as their Messiah.
It's very easy actually. First and foremost we must understand that it is faith alone that saves. From that we are filled with the Holy Spirit who is our counsellor. Our focus changes. Our desires change. We begin to respond to His guidance and counsel. It is from His working through us that we begin to do the deeds of a true believer. That's why James said that we would be able to see a true believer by the works we do. The works were only an indication and proof that we had faith and the Holy Spirit was working through us. The works were the evidence of that saving faith.
His teaching is that He came to redeem us from the law. His teaching is that we are no longer under that law but we are under grace as the Holy Spirit inspired Paul to write. His teaching is that if you go back under the law you make His death of no effect in your life.
Accepting point 1 implicitly calls for continuing revelation.
The question and the answer are more subtle than that. The question asks about doing “work” literally as we understand it today, but the reply word Christ uses to reflect work means a manifestation of an inner desire or intention. Therefore to work the works of God you need to believe in his Son, whom he sent, Jesus Christ.
The Bible is clear that we’ll be judged by our works/actions and that only works/actions motivated by faith in Jesus Christ are acceptable to God. Take a look at Matthew 28:16-20 to learn the specifics of that work.
“the word of God is living and active” = continuing revelation
The specific details of what his church is doing are found in Matthew 28:17-20. There is a clear reference to the commission as well as the distinction between the Godhead.
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/28-17.htm
Some had faith, some doubted, but the work was all the same.
They have to believe in works salvation otherwise Pergatory would be empty.
Their belief system is built like a house of cards....it cannot stand without each piece being in place because it is man built...on sand....one day it will fall completely.
Yet you believe your private interpretation is correct and mine is wrong.
I don't believe you will find much in the way of Jesus talking about his church in the Old Testament...Your church history is corrupt...So yes I would reject a lot of things...
And BTW, I'm a bible believer, not a bible interpreter...You people should just believe the scriptures and count on God for the understanding instead of trying to interpret the things you don't understand or that don't fit your theology...
Oh my. No, I am not lawless. By “right division” I meant that this writer is going back into a time when Israel was UNDER THE LAW, being spoken to by one who was BORN UNDER LAW to redeem those UNDER THE LAW...and then trying to apply that directly to post-Cross believers. Distinctions need to be made as to who is being spoken to, and when and why.
Jesus did not stop speaking after His death, burial and resurrection. Who was the person He appeared to and taught personally and made apostle to the Gentiles? That man who penned most of the New Testament letters? Perhaps Jesus intends for us to listen to him today?
Try finding a Syrophoenician woman asking for crumbs from Israel in the letter to the Ephesians. NOT. THERE. Through the cross Jesus put to death the enmity between Israel and the nations. No more dividing wall. One new man out of the two.
Shocking!
True.
Beautifully stated. I rest the case I WANTED to make with your’s, lol. Thank you!
Nice philosophy...But that's all it is is philosophy...The word of God is Gods words to the world in the scriptures...
Heb_4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
1Pe_1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
2Pe_3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
1Jn_2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
3. Condemnation isn’t Jesus’ style.
Mat_25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Looks like it is Jesus' style here...
Great post all around.
Your info on the author makes sense.
Appreciate it a lot.
“Condemnation isn’t Jesus’ style”
Evidently this scholar never read what Jesus had to say about the Nicolaitans.
And THAT they are...
The verse does not say to divide truth from lawlessness or untruth...It says to divide truth from truth...What may be truth in one place may not be the truth in another...
How does all this comport with “sell your cloak and buy a sword”?
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