Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Yes, There is Evidence God Exists
Patheos ^ | August 14, 2013 | David French

Posted on 12/23/2014 9:23:03 AM PST by redleghunter

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-79 next last
To: Tao Yin
I have faith because I heard the word and the holy spirit moved.

The author of the article agrees with you. I could only excerpt the article thinking folks might read it all.

21 posted on 12/23/2014 11:12:16 AM PST by redleghunter (... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: SkyPilot

Thanks, my wife will love that pic. Yes all is wonderfully made!


22 posted on 12/23/2014 11:13:20 AM PST by redleghunter (... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: LouAvul
But the atheist simply isn't interested.

Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Indeed. Good point on monologue. One only has to turn on the boob tube to see this (Bill Maher)

23 posted on 12/23/2014 11:15:10 AM PST by redleghunter (... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Tao Yin

If you have not felt the hand of God sometime in your life you just have not been paying attention. God is with us 24/7 365.


24 posted on 12/23/2014 12:30:08 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Salvation; Dutchboy88

It sure is funny how Catholics love to use a partial quote of 2 Peter 1:20 as authoritatively proving the Catholic church is the exclusive entity capable of interpreting the Bible.

But they twist it to mean the exact opposite of what Peter said.

2 Peter 1:20
knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation

Does this passage mean that an individual cannot know the meaning of scripture by studying it? Of course not.

Acts 17:11
These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.

Here, Luke writes how the people of Berea did not just take Paul’s word for it. They checked out the scriptures to see if what he was saying is true. They confirmed that it was true and consistent with God’s word, and they believed and were saved.

The Gnostics taught that there was secret knowledge available only to the initiated. Yet Peter says that the interpretation is NOT PRIVATE. The interpretation is the meaning. Not being private means it is public information.

It means what it means. It does not require going through some higher authority other than its own authority.

Gifted teachers are part of the true church made up of all believers. They can help other believers in their study, but it is ultimately up to each individual to “search diligently” as the Bereans, to see if what is being taught is true and Biblical.

It is not man nor an external visible entity that reveals the truth of Scriptures to men’s hearts. It is the work of the Holy Spirit.

John 16:13
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

This is what Christ Himself taught, and I choose to believe what He says rather than following the doctrines of men.


25 posted on 12/23/2014 5:39:35 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: unlearner

**exact opposite of what Peter said.**

Are you a mind reader from of old? How do you know exactly what Peter meant unless he, himself, told you?

YOPIOS — Your Own Private Interpretation Of Scripture.


26 posted on 12/23/2014 5:43:04 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Salvation; unlearner; ealgeone
Are you a mind reader from of old? How do you know exactly what Peter meant unless he, himself, told you?

Once again, quick to tell others what to think, because the "catechism tells them so"...

It is easy to know what Peter meant, when considered in the Greek language in which it is quoted. It doesn't take any interpretation to distinguish the role of Peter, and the role of Christ. Whether in Hebrew or in Greek, the same application of Word applies to Jesus, and to the Scriptures that point at Him, THE ROCK!

Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a tested stone, A costly cornerstone for the foundation, firmly placed. He who believes in it will not be disturbed.

...

The same Peter, denied the Lord thrice, as prophesied. The same Lord died on the cross to save mankind from a sure death... separation from Him due to the wages of sin. Peter was chosen to be one of His followers, along with eleven more. Peter's rank was disciple, not pope. His ministry was to the jews. Rome was never the center of Christian life, and it certainly never became anything more than that except in the minds of the cult which follows it's leadership. Sure, there are millions of those, but it is clear from a simple reading of Scripture that Rome is not to be followed, Jesus Christ is the only source of Truth.

Genesis 1: 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. ...

... John 1: 11 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.

9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

15 (John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’”) 16 Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.


27 posted on 12/23/2014 6:26:31 PM PST by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Salvation; Dutchboy88; WVKayaker

“Are you a mind reader from of old? How do you know exactly what Peter meant unless he, himself, told you?”

Wow. Where to begin. You are engaging in a discussion. You are using words. Words have meanings. How do you know what my previous post means? Are you a mind reader?

Peter clearly states his purpose for writing his epistles (letters):

2 Peter 1:15
Moreover I will be careful to ensure that you always have a reminder of these things after my decease.

2 Peter 3:1-2
Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder), that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior.

See how he uses words? See how words have meanings?

The same Spirit of God Who inspired Peter to write these things is also the same Spirit Who indwells believers and teaches them what His Word means.

There are many conflicting and false teachings about what the Bible means. Rather than abandoning our personal responsibility to study and allowing a religious entity to take the place of the Holy Spirit; the solution is to seek God for wisdom through prayer, study the scriptures which God inspired and preserved, and submit to Him in faith.

There is no mysterious and secret mind of Peter which needs to be read. Peter, Paul and the other apostles shared with us the word of God which came from the mind of God. Believers do not need to be “mind readers” to understand because God has given to us the mind of Christ.

1 Corinthians 2:10-16
But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. For “who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.


28 posted on 12/23/2014 6:39:27 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: WVKayaker

I am asking a question — not telling others what to believe.

**Are you a mind reader from of old? How do you know exactly what Peter meant unless he, himself, told you?**


29 posted on 12/23/2014 6:42:26 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: unlearner

I am asking a question — not telling others what to believe.

**Are you a mind reader from of old? How do you know exactly what Peter meant unless he, himself, told you?**

And you still haven’t answered my question.


30 posted on 12/23/2014 6:42:59 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: redleghunter

“Counting To God: A Personal Journey Through Science to Belief” Published 2014.

http://www.amazon.com/Counting-God-Personal-Journey-Through/dp/0963270168/ref=sr_1_1_twi_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1419401140&sr=1-1&keywords=Counting+to+God


31 posted on 12/23/2014 10:05:24 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Salvation; unlearner
I am asking a question — not telling others what to believe. ...

...And you still haven’t answered my question.

It was a statement made in the form of a question, and it was answered twice. The problem comes into the picture when the answer isn't acceptable due to a preconceived viewpoint in opposition to Scripture. It comes from a blind obedience to the doctrines of the cult to which they belong.

The Roman Catholic group is the largest cult in the world, since it requires obedience to the groupthink instead of what God clearly presents to us in His Word!

32 posted on 12/23/2014 10:46:01 PM PST by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: WVKayaker; Salvation
The Roman Catholic group is the largest cult in the world

Well, either that.. or your viewpoint is thoroughly whacked.

Occam's razor is not in your favor.

33 posted on 12/23/2014 11:26:33 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: redleghunter

Bookmark


34 posted on 12/23/2014 11:31:30 PM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: D-fendr
Occam's razor is not in your favor.

I don't need Occam to know Scripture and Truth... and both seem left aside from the Roman Catholic cult!You cannot prove God exists, but I know Him personally! I hope you can say the same! Mary never received a crown, except in the cult of catholic lore...

Mark 7: 6 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:

“ ‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
7 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.’

8You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”

9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! ...

Collossians 2: ... 8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.

9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, 10 and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority. ...


35 posted on 12/24/2014 12:25:10 AM PST by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: redleghunter

Your son’s story is inspirational. :-) Thank you for sharing it.


36 posted on 12/24/2014 1:47:09 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: redleghunter

Thank you for this post.


37 posted on 12/24/2014 2:26:33 AM PST by xp38
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: redleghunter
We prayed that night, all night next to my son’s bed, we also had a prayer chain informed by my sister-in-law and many people stayed up all over the nation to pray for my son in Jesus Christs Name.

Praise God! Then there is the faith of "others" in Heb. 11

38 posted on 12/24/2014 7:02:18 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: WVKayaker
I don't need Occam…

Perhaps you should reconsider. When you start seeing 2,000 years of Christianity as a cult... might be time to borrow his razor. Or a clue.

39 posted on 12/24/2014 9:30:02 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: daniel1212

Amen.


40 posted on 12/24/2014 3:00:20 PM PST by redleghunter (... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-79 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson