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To: ravenwolf

“Yes but the merchants of the earth have not gotten rich off of the abundance of Jerusalem`s delicies.”

No, but I think you should say “have not yet”. We don’t know that they will not have by the time the prophecy is fulfilled, especially because the narrative of Revelation seems to suggest that Jerusalem will be a sort of capitol for the Beast’s operation.

“Rome is the only power over all that could fit the description because it has and have had power over the entire world, over many waters which are nations.”

Rome had power in the past, but not today, and there is no real indication that it will have any power in the future. Just as Rome once had power, so once did Athens, or Persepolis, or Cairo, so why is Rome special?

Besides, you can possibly interpret Rome to fulfill a small part of the description, but it cannot possibly fulfill this part:

“24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.” Rev. 18:24

Rome didn’t kill the prophets. Who did? Well, Jesus answered that for us (speaking to the Pharisees):

“47 Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them.

48 Truly ye bear witness that ye allow the deeds of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and ye build their sepulchres.

49 Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:

50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;

51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.”

So, Jesus told us who was responsible for the blood of the prophets, and who it would be required of. Thus, the harlot must refer to the same, lest we call Jesus a liar.


52 posted on 12/31/2014 12:20:38 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;


Yes it was required of that generation, i believe that was fulfilled, you do make a good point though.

Rome had power in the past, but not today,>>>>>>

Not Rome itself.

The way i see it up until just the last very few years the Churches combined has had more power than any other power,
If the protestants which came from the Catholic Church gave their power to the mother Church there would be no power their equal

“24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.” Rev. 18:24 >>>>>

I can not explain that which is the only thing i see that might point to Israel.

The whore being drunken on the blood of the saints could not be fulfilled by Jerusalem.

The golden cup and the blood of the saints could only be referring to the blood of Jesus, the saints drink wine which represented the blood of Jesus.


58 posted on 12/31/2014 1:03:23 PM PST by ravenwolf
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