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To: cloudmountain; Salvation; Norm Lenhart
>>It was founded by Jesus Christ Himself in Mt 16:18.<<

No "church" found there. The word used there is ekklesia which means those called out by God which Jesus said that all who believed in Him were.

>>It would be built on Simon Peter, Mt 16:18.<<

No, it doesn't. And even the Catholic catechism agrees it wasn't.

CCC 424 Moved by the grace of the Holy Spirit and drawn by the Father, we believe in Jesus and confess: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” On the rock of this faith confessed by St. Peter, Christ built his Church.

>>It would be defended by GOD Himself, Mt 16:18-19.<<

Once again. No "church" mentioned.

>>It would have authority given by Jesus Christ, Mt 16:19,18:17-18.<<

I thought Catholics believe that was given to Peter alone?

>>It would be guided by the Holy Spirit who will dwell within it, Jn 14:15-17, Act 15:28,16:6.<<

That was actually given to all believers.

Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

The Catholic Church lie of them only having the right to interpret is from the enemy.

>>It would be one and undivided, Mk 3:24-25.<<

The true ekklesia of Christ is undivided. It's just that the Catholic Church being blinded does not recognize it.

>>It would have one fold and one shepherd, Jn 10:16.<<

The ekklesia is one fold and led by the one Shepard Jesus Christ. He needs on stand in or "another christ" here on earth as He promised that wherever two or three are gathered in His name He would be with them.

>>It would have Priests, Bishops, and Deacons, 1Tim 3:1-13.<<

No priests other than all believers with Christ as the High Priest in the New Testament ekklesia. The Catholic Church leadership are illegitimate per Paul's letters to Timothy.

>>It must have the Holy Eucharist celebration, Jn 6:42-70, Acts 2:42.<<

No "eucharist" found in scripture. Christ would never have advocated the breaking of the law by eating blood.

>>It must be found in all nations, Mt 28:19.<<

And so it is and for sure will be during the tribulation with the two witnesses and the angels proclaiming. The corruptions of the Catholic Church will have been eliminated by that time.

>>It must be found in all centuries, Mt 28:20.<<

As it has been even though the Catholic Church has attempted to wipe it out just as many have attempted to wipe out the Jews.

>>Jesus Christ said He would be with His Church every day, in every year, until the end of the world, Mt 28:20.<<

And so He has been despite the Catholic Church trying to replace Him with Mary and their so called saints.

212 posted on 01/02/2015 10:23:22 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
"Catholic" simply means universal, nothing more or less.

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You will know the Catholic Church by the following.
*It was founded by Jesus Christ Himself in Mt 16:18.
*It would be built on Simon Peter, Mt 16:18.
*It would be defended by GOD Himself, Mt 16:18-19.
*It would have authority given by Jesus Christ, Mt 16:19,18:17-18.
*It would be guided by the Holy Spirit who will dwell within it, Jn 14:15-17, Act 15:28,16:6.
*It would be one and undivided, Mk 3:24-25.
*It would have one fold and one shepherd, Jn 10:16.
*It would have Priests, Bishops, and Deacons, 1Tim 3:1-13.
*It must have the Holy Eucharist celebration, Jn 6:42-70, Acts 2:42.
*It must be found in all nations, Mt 28:19.
*It must be found in all centuries, Mt 28:20.
*Jesus Christ said He would be with His Church every day, in every year, until the end of the world, Mt 28:20. (This means no gaps in time.)

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FYI only: Martin Luther, the defrocked former Catholic priest and theologian, also deleted seven books of the Bible, all in the Old Testament.
These books are accepted by Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, but are not accepted by Jews or Protestants. These include 1 and 2 Maccabees, Judith, Tobit, Baruch, Sirach, and Wisdom, and additions to the books of Esther and Daniel.

Imagine, deleting the Book of Wisdom. I wonder how Luther thought that he had the authority to do this. Perhaps it was merely hubris.

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Happy new year to you and yours.

276 posted on 01/02/2015 1:18:27 PM PST by cloudmountain (:)
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