[Salvation]

From the article: There is no musical better at (humorously) depicting the flesh as Camelot. Here are a few video clips that depict well the flesh.

In this first video Sir Lancelot ponders what a great and perfect guy he is. He goes so far as to say that “Had I been made the partner of Eve we’d be Eden still!”

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In this clip, the Knights (in the flesh) ridicule goodness and sing “Fie On Goodness!” It well illustrates the tendency of the flesh not only to indulge sin, but also to resist and ridicule what is good.

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[Salvation]

Monsignor Pope Ping!

[Shery]

Another good word by a real man of God! I so appreciate him! God is good to give us a good word of instruction to keep us hungering after Him and humble in our daily walk.

[verga]

When Jesus said: The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you--they are full of the Spirit and life.He was clearly speaking in terms of Galatians.

Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, 21 envy,[a] drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. 24 And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

[verga]

BTW in way before the haters.

[Slambat]

Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. For my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink (John 6:53-55).

Got in a lot of trouble in Sunday school for that one.
It was fun.

[chajin]

I won't quibble with the minor disagreements; this is a well-thought out understanding of "the flesh." What's missing--and to be fair, it might well be the next chapter if this were a chapter in a theology text--is the third distinction, the "natural man" (psychikos anthropos) of I Corinthians 2:14, the Aristotelian who aims, not for Godliness, but megalopsychia. I can't speak for Catholics, but many Protestants, particularly among the laity, see themselves as a Manichean duality, flesh vs. spirit, not realizing that Christianity asserts three natures within humans, the soma (flesh), the psyche (soul/mind), and the pneuma (spirit), and the distinction between the flesh and the soul, and between the soul and the spirit, is just as necessary to understanding human nature as the distinction between the flesh and the spirit.

[Mercat]

My son played Lancelot in his HS production of Camelot. Wearing gold. At the end of his singing C’est Moi his godmother who was an appellate court judge stood up and started yelling his name. LOL. I could never have gotten away with that.

[Salvation]

Another bit of wisdom:

The flesh is intent on things of this world, upon gratifying its own passions and desires. On account of the flesh we are concerned primarily with ourselves and seek to be at the center.

[NorthMountain]

You may say I have exaggerated, that the flesh is not really this bad. Well I am not, just buy a newspaper and see what the flesh is up to.

No kidding.

[RnMomof7]

Reading scripture , like all reading you must take context into the meaning ...Knowing that it was a sin to the jews to eat blood... onw has to consider just what He meant . Jesus would never tell men to sin .

Lexicon :: Strong's G4561 - sarx

σάρξ

Transliteration sarx	Pronunciation sä'rks (Key)
Part of Speech feminine noun	Root Word (Etymology) Probably from the base of σαρόω (G4563)
Dictionary Aids Vine's Expository Dictionary: View Entry TDNT Reference: 7:98,1000
Outline of Biblical Usage flesh (the soft substance of the living body, which covers the bones and is permeated with blood) of both man and beasts the body the body of a man used of natural or physical origin, generation or relationship born of natural generation the sensuous nature of man, "the animal nature" without any suggestion of depravity the animal nature with cravings which incite to sin the physical nature of man as subject to suffering a living creature (because possessed of a body of flesh) whether man or beast the flesh, denotes mere human nature, the earthly nature of man apart from divine influence, and therefore prone to sin and opposed to God
KJV Translation Count — Total: 151x The KJV translates Strongs G4561 in the following manner: flesh (147x), carnal (2x), carnally minded (with G5427) (1x), fleshly (1x).
Thayer's Greek Lexicon Help Unlike man Christ had a Divine nature, that man needs if he is ever to see the Father ... That is found only in Christ. Rom 8:7 Because the carnal G4561 mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Tools specific to Rom 8:8 Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

[Grateful2God]

#3 kept popping out at me. Jealousy, envy, resentment: those are my "frequent flyer" trips to the Confessional. I have such a hard time letting go of old hurts. For the sake of peace, I keep quiet, but sometimes it just eats me up inside if I don't constantly fight it. It seems like the persons involved just know what buttons to push, and I am so easily susceptible to it. Please keep me in prayer!

On another note, anybody notice the picture with the lady sitting looking in the mirror? It took me awhile- the skull popped out first...

God bless you!

[Vendome]

[Kackikat]

Humans are made in God’s image. We are three parts, Body (flesh), soul (mind, will and emotions), and spirit (eternal core) and the spirit and the flesh war after the soul. When we accept Christ our spirit and soul are united in eternal Salvation. Simple.

[tired&retired]

I read through the post several times in order to clearly understand the author’s points. I have found that there is a greater understanding of this discussion.

Everything is consciousness or spirit, even our physical bodies are a creation of consciousness by our consciousness. It is what gives life to matter. The problem is that the physical body and the consciousness relating to it is the lowest frequency of consciousness within our soul or spirit. It is very difficult to raise our consciousness to a higher level while we are still attached to a physical body for all the reasons mentioned in the article.

Everything that Jesus taught us was about how to let go of the attachments of our lower physical consciousness that act as anchors or ballast and raise us up to a higher level. In order to do this, Our Father sent us the Helper Consciousness of the Holy Spirit to lift us up. This Holy Spirit is also referred to as the Light as any higher consciousness is always perceived by a lower consciousness as Light. (It’s the same reason that the Danish atomic physicist, Niels Bohr who discovered the orbitals of electrons around the nucleus of an atom showed that they give off a photon as they come to a lower orbital level.)

Whether you are speaking of the flesh or the nature of the spirit relating to the flesh does not matter as when a person is alive the two act as one.

What people do not realize is that with each level of consciousness associated with the various levels of the physical body, that consciousness can either be turned and focused upward to a higher level or it can be spilled outward causing addiction or dependency. To the extent consciousness is spilled outward it is used up and not available to raise to higher levels which are closer to perceiving and experiencing God.

Further, an individuals perception of reality changes as they raise their consciousness. Children have a pure consciousness but it is very low in frequency. Our mission is to raise our consciousness to higher levels and keep it pure. We truly are seeds planted here to grow. The parable of the tares in the wheat in Matthew 13 and the explanation of it told by Jesus to His disciples clearly explains this.