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Paul VI was right to warn against contraception, Pope Francis says
CNA/EWTN News ^ | Jan 16, 2015 | EWTN sources

Posted on 01/16/2015 4:41:20 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o

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To: mrobisr

She actually did answer the question. You just don’t like her answer.


21 posted on 01/16/2015 7:57:57 PM PST by alphadoggie
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To: alphadoggie

Chapter and verse


22 posted on 01/16/2015 8:18:42 PM PST by mrobisr
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To: alphadoggie

See there you go again thinking that I’m trying to please any human. It’s not a matter of liking any answer it’s what Scripture says and neither you nor anyone else can reconcile the difference between your Bible and your Catechism. Find me in your Bible where it says to ask mortal man for wisdom. It specifically says God.

Chapter and Verse Please


23 posted on 01/16/2015 8:26:47 PM PST by mrobisr
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Anytime! : ) Thank you for posting the article!


24 posted on 01/16/2015 8:31:31 PM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: mrobisr
When we ask a saint (like St. Joseph) for intercession, we are asking them to pray to God for us and with us.

To see an example in the Bible of a saint praying to God for wisdom for other people, here is St. Paul saying he prayed for wisdom for the Colossians:

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And so, from the day we heard of it, we have not ceased to pray for you, asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, to lead a life worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to him, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God.    Colossians 1:9-10

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There are also may examples in the Bible of a person asking someone else to pray for them (even though they could also do it directly themselves).

Here are a couple quick examples of that, also from St. Paul's letters:

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And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people. Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel.    Ephesians 6:18-19

I urge you, brothers and sisters, by our Lord Jesus Christ and by the love of the Spirit, to join me in my struggle by praying to God for me.    Romans 15:30

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St. Paul could pray to God directly himself (and I'm sure he did), but he also asked others to pray for him too, and that is what we do when we ask a saint to pray for us, while also praying to God directly ourselves.

25 posted on 01/16/2015 9:15:42 PM PST by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Hopefully the couple has everything timed perfectly with 100% accuracy.


26 posted on 01/16/2015 9:42:11 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (TOUCH MY SODA AND THERE'LL BE HELL TO PAY!!)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

No big deal. Just one more Catholic body for the warriors and support personnel. If the body happens to be albino and male, they can join the order of Albino Assassin Monks.

All albino Catholic babies are wanted. To be agents of destruction and murder.

Freegards


27 posted on 01/16/2015 11:21:40 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Even the Pope derailed, somehow, even by Divine Grace, brings certain things back into focus.


28 posted on 01/16/2015 11:24:23 PM PST by onedoug
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
It's actually as reliable as the oral contraceptive. And won't give you clots.


R. Hatcher, et al., Contraceptive Technology, 18th revised edition., New York, NY: Ardent Media, 2004, pp. see Table 31-1

29 posted on 01/17/2015 4:57:32 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be" said the Cat,"or you wouldn't have come here.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I read the comments on this an another thread on the same topic, and they came to mind as I was reading Jeremiah this morning.

“Thou hast smitten them, but they felt no anguish;
thou hast consumed them, but they refused to take correction.
They have made their faces harder than rock; they have refused to repent.” (Jer. 5:3)


30 posted on 01/17/2015 5:21:59 AM PST by Tax-chick ("A war is not over until the enemy stops fighting." ~ Thomas Sowell)
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To: Tax-chick
I just went to Confession this morning. Our assistant pastor, Fr. Julian, is a good 'un, listens very "absorptively" and then gives you brief advice in Colombian-accented words of wisdom.

Hey, People!!

It's Saturday. Shouldn't you go to Confession?

31 posted on 01/17/2015 7:51:38 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be" said the Cat,"or you wouldn't have come here.")
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To: rawcatslyentist

Be fruitful and multiply.


32 posted on 01/17/2015 9:58:50 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: rawcatslyentist

“Beholded”

Oh, another government school product.


33 posted on 01/17/2015 9:59:54 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: mrobisr

“So which document is wrong and which one is correct, your Bible or your Catechism?”

Neither is wrong.


34 posted on 01/17/2015 10:01:18 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Ransomed

“All albino Catholic babies are wanted.”

Apparently no one wants Protestant babies?


35 posted on 01/17/2015 10:03:20 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Sure they are wanted. If there weren’t any Protestant babies, there would be no names and locations of Protestants. If there were no names and locations of Protestants, what would go into the giant supercomputer beneath the Vatican?

Freegards


36 posted on 01/17/2015 10:35:07 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

” If there were no names and locations of Protestants, what would go into the giant supercomputer beneath the Vatican?”

Too much Jack Chick comics for you!


37 posted on 01/17/2015 10:36:38 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Well then it should be easy give me chap and verse


38 posted on 01/17/2015 5:51:31 PM PST by mrobisr
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To: mrobisr

“Well then it should be easy give me chap and verse”

I would be happy to - right after you give me a chapter and verse that says I have to give you a chapter and verse for something to be true.


39 posted on 01/17/2015 6:05:20 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Now that’s dodging the Truth, but that won’t work when you standing at the Judgement Seat of Jesus Christ and as your Bible states

Colossians 2:8 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)

8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the universe, and not according to Christ.


40 posted on 01/17/2015 6:43:19 PM PST by mrobisr
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