[terycarl]

Where sin abounds, grace much more abounds. If there was no sin in Mary, she would not need grace, therefore couldn't be *full of grace*.

I may be wrong (I don't think so), but I'd place a large bet on the fact that you've never taken a course in logic, and if you did, you didn't do real well in it....

[CynicalBear]

It’s best to leave that carnal logic to those who have been blinded to the spiritual truths.