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How To Offend a Room Full of Calvinists [Calvinist Caucus]
Challies.com ^ | January 28, 2015 | Tim Challies

Posted on 01/28/2015 8:24:41 AM PST by Alex Murphy

Do you want to know how to make a Calvinist angry? Do you want to know how to offend a whole room full of them? Just bring up the old line about Reformed theology being incompatible with evangelism. We have all heard it, we have all read it, we have all rejected it.

It’s the word on the street, though, that Calvinists make poor evangelists. Many people are firmly convinced that there is a deep-rooted flaw embedded within Reformed theology that undermines evangelistic fervor. Most blame it on predestination. After all, if God has already chosen who will be saved, it negates at least some of our personal responsibility in calling people to respond to the gospel. Or perhaps it’s just the theological-mindedness that ties us down in petty disputes and nuanced distinctions instead of freeing us to get up, get out, and get on mission.

We like to answer this charge with facts. We go to the Bible to show that the sovereignty of God is not the snuff that extinguishes the ember of evangelistic fervor, but the spark that causes it to burst into flame. We go to the pages of Scripture to show that God’s sovereignty and human responsibility are not incompatible, but that people truly are both free and bound, that God both chooses some while extending the free offer of the gospel to all. We go to history to show that the great missionaries, great preachers, and great revivalists of days past were Calvinists, and that Reformed theology was what fueled their mission.

Those are good and valid responses. But, to quote the Bard, perhaps the lady doth protest too much. The Bible and history answer the charge. But do our lives? Do our churches?

When I look at myself, I have trouble finding a clear line extending from my Reformed theology to evangelistic zeal. I can easily draw a line from my Reformed theology to my beliefs about evangelistic zeal, and I can go to history and look to other men and women to draw a line from their beliefs about Reformed theology to evangelistic zeal.

But in moments of honesty, I have to own it: My life does not consistently display it. Too often I am the cliché. I have got the theory. I have got the facts. I have got the history. But I don’t have the zeal. Not often, anyway. Not often enough.

There are only so many times I can point to Jonathan Edwards, George Whitefield and the Great Awakening, or William Carey and the great missionary movement of the nineteenth century, or Charles Spurgeon and the countless thousands saved under his ministry. Sooner or later I have to stop looking at my heroes and look to myself. I can’t claim their zeal as my own. I can’t claim their obedience as my own.

It is my conviction—conviction rooted in close study of God’s Word—that Calvinism provides a soul-stirring motivation for evangelism, and that sharing the gospel freely and with great zeal is the most natural application of biblical truth. But it is my confession—confession rooted in the evidence of my own life—that my Calvinism too rarely stirs my soul to mission. The truths that have roared in the hearts and lives of so many others, somehow just whisper in me. The fault, I’m convinced, is not with God’s Word, or even with my understanding of God’s Word; the fault is with me.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: calvinism; violatedcaucus
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Do you want to know how to make a Calvinist angry? Do you want to know how to offend a whole room full of them? Just bring up the old line about Reformed theology being incompatible with evangelism. We have all heard it, we have all read it, we have all rejected it....

....There are only so many times I can point to Jonathan Edwards, George Whitefield and the Great Awakening, or William Carey and the great missionary movement of the nineteenth century, or Charles Spurgeon and the countless thousands saved under his ministry. Sooner or later I have to stop looking at my heroes and look to myself. I can’t claim their zeal as my own. I can’t claim their obedience as my own. It is my conviction—conviction rooted in close study of God’s Word—that Calvinism provides a soul-stirring motivation for evangelism, and that sharing the gospel freely and with great zeal is the most natural application of biblical truth. But it is my confession—confession rooted in the evidence of my own life—that my Calvinism too rarely stirs my soul to mission. The truths that have roared in the hearts and lives of so many others, somehow just whisper in me. The fault, I’m convinced, is not with God’s Word, or even with my understanding of God’s Word; the fault is with me.

1 posted on 01/28/2015 8:24:41 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy
The fault, I’m convinced, is not with God’s Word, or even with my understanding of God’s Word; the fault is with me.

Ouch, that hurts!

2 posted on 01/28/2015 8:29:24 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: allendale
Obviously you didn't read the article.

Or you're bound and determined to flaunt your ignorance.

4 posted on 01/28/2015 8:33:57 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: scripter

ping...


8 posted on 01/28/2015 8:43:19 AM PST by latina4dubya (wheni have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: allendale
One of our prominent modern Calvinists on evangelism/missions (be ignorant no longer - Google is your friend 8^):

“Have you ever wondered what it feels like to have a love for the lost? This is a term we use as part of our Christian jargon. Many believers search their hearts in condemnation, looking for the arrival of some feeling of benevolence that will propel them into bold evangelism. It will never happen. It is impossible to love “the lost”. You can’t feel deeply for an abstraction or a concept. You would find it impossible to love deeply an unfamiliar individual portrayed in a photograph, let alone a nation or a race or something as vague as “all lost people”.

Don’t wait for a feeling or love in order to share Christ with a stranger. You already love your heavenly Father, and you know that this stranger is created by Him, but separated from Him, so take those first steps in evangelism because you love God. It is not primarily out of compassion for humanity that we share our faith or pray for the lost; it is first of all, love for God.” - John Piper

"To belong to Jesus is to embrace the nations with Him." — John Piper

"God is pursuing with omnipotent passion a worldwide purpose of gathering joyful worshipers for Himself from every tribe and tongue and people and nation. He has an inexhaustible enthusiasm for the supremacy of His name among the nations. Therefore, let us bring our affections into line with His, and, for the sake of His name, let us renounce the quest for worldly comforts and join His global purpose." — John Piper

"Missions is the overflow of our delight in God because missions is the overflow of God's delight in being God." — John Piper

11 posted on 01/28/2015 8:45:27 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: elcid1970

Is that your experience? If so, it is not mine or that of my circle.


12 posted on 01/28/2015 8:47:12 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Alex Murphy

I didn’t know there were any Calvinists left.


14 posted on 01/28/2015 8:52:43 AM PST by Cry if I Wanna
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To: Alex Murphy

So much for the caucus label. Not too surprised though.


15 posted on 01/28/2015 8:55:14 AM PST by lupie
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To: lupie
So much for the caucus label. Not too surprised though.

Yep.

16 posted on 01/28/2015 8:56:10 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: allendale

Comeback when you’re coherent and understand what you’re talking about.


17 posted on 01/28/2015 8:56:41 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

An interesting straw man. Have you actually heard anyone making this claim (Calvinist or otherwise)?

Again I defer to Piper:
The most agonizing problem about the assurance of salvation is not the problem of whether the objective facts of Christianity are true (God exists, Christ is God, Christ died for sinners, Christ rose from the dead, Christ saves forever all who believe, etc.). Those facts are the utterly crucial bedrock of our faith. But the really agonizing problem of assurance is whether I personally am saved by those facts.

This boils down to whether I have saving faith. What makes this agonizing — for many in the history of the church and today — is that there are people who think they have saving faith but don’t. For example, in Matthew 7:21–23, Jesus says, “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you who practice lawlessness.’”

-snip-

from: http://www.desiringgod.org/articles/the-agonizing-problem-of-the-assurance-of-salvation


20 posted on 01/28/2015 9:01:51 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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