Is the Mass the Real Sacrifice of Christ?

In Plain Site ^ | Febuary 7 ,2015 | James G. McCarthy

[CynicalBear]

Paul said anyone who teaches something pertaining to the gospel that they didn’t to consider them accursed. He also said to “search the scriptures daily to see if what they teach is true”. If you can’t prove that some “oral tradition” was taught by the apostles but still teach it I will consider you accursed as Paul said to. What “oral tradition” do you keep that is not found in scripture but that you can prove the apostles taught?

[CynicalBear]

Knows what? Has verga been talking behind my back again?

[metmom]

Which unwritten apostolic traditions do you keep? Since you believe in the bible I’m sure you’ll agree unwritten tradition is vital and indispensable.

Well, what are they for starters? Just what are those traditions Paul was referring to that he handed down that we are to keep that were not included in Scripture?

How do you know?

How do you know they’re from the apostles, Paul in particular?

How do you know they’ve been passed down faithfully?

What is your source for verifying all of the above?

Please provide the sources for verification purposes.

[metmom]

All the ones referred to in the NT. I’m sure you know what I mean. Paul says keep them.

Oh, you mean the ones that were written down?

Well, then, they aren't oral tradition any more then are they?

[BlueDragon]

He was referring to some weeks ago now when it was myself who had told him to "shut up".

That was pounced upon by a handful of RC'ers who saw the comment, yet may not have been apprised of the full context which had lead up to that moment.

Oh, and what "verga" had said that invoked such a response from myself --- I don't remember precisely, but as far as memory does serve, it was after witnessing a long succession generalized, broadly sweeping type of insults seemingly purposefully designed to be taken as personal insult, and which did often include personal insult also -- with not all of those comments having suffered deletion by moderators...

[Romulus]

Paul never said to do that. Must be something wrong with your bible.

[editor-surveyor]

I can see that you do understand Hocus-Pocus!

Paganism is paganism.

[Salvation]

Oh, I understand. I just know what is right and what is wrong.

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “Oh, I understand. I just know what is right and what is wrong.” <<

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So did Eve, right after she ate the fruit.

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[Arthur McGowan]

Did the Lamb escape your notice?

[boatbums]

Good article to keep on hand. Thanks.

[boatbums]

The Gnostics also denied Jesus HAD a literal flesh and blood body. Most all of the arguments we read from the early church fathers concerning the eucharist are defending THAT truth against the Donatists and Gnostics who denied Christ's incarnation. I don't know why this fact is so often ignored.

[boatbums]

Excuse me, but, didn't you just post SCRIPTURE to defend your belief but then turn around and deny SCRIPTURE is authoritative? You insist St. Paul is superior to Luther - and he IS because Paul wrote that IN Scripture - but then you reject what you call sola Scriptura! Do you not comprehend that the term means God's sacred revealed word is our authority for the rule of the Christian faith and that it supersedes what mere men say is the truth?

[boatbums]

Exactly! Why do so many Catholics allow these same handful of people to suck you in to these posts? It’s so obvious they are just looking for an argument and to antagonize. I’ve been foolish enough to be dragged into it too. Please stop taking the bait. If you ignore these posts and don’t comment eventually they’ll stop posting them.

Because Lord knows there's no shortage of Roman Catholics posting threads asserting their superior faith and beliefs over non-Catholic Freepers. Why begrudge someone explaining why they disagree once and a while? Do FRoman Catholics imagine they OWN the Religion Forum now?

[huldah1776]

I am the vine, I am a shepherd (not a carpenter?), a stone the builder’s rejected, a door to a sheepfold, true bread from heaven, high priest, Bright and Morning Star. Symbols. Many names are prophetic. One is ultimate, the Son of God. Just saying that we do not eat His flesh or drink His blood. A wafer and wine do not contain His DNA and His resurrected body would not be compatible with ours.

[huldah1776]

Ask Him. Ask Him for the truth no matter what. It is an amazing experience.

[verga]

You are welcome.

[verga]

Back attcha!

[verga]

The Catholic Church is the Pillar and foundation of Truth. I did ask and was given the truth.

[Cap'n Crunch]

On my way to work but I wanted to shoot you an answer. This is a bit of a lengthy article about the Mass but if you scroll down to “the constituent parts of the Mass” and begin reading from there, if you care to, the explanation is there.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10006a.htm

This article explains the entire Sacrifice of the Mass.