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To: JSDude1

“I comprehend scripture perfectly well through His guidance, but you won’t even dialogue with me.”

If you comprehended scripture perfectly well you would not be in a man made sect nor hold man made doctrines. Also, I have absolutely no reason to believe you are interested in “dialogue”. If you were, you would not have distorted my words.

“You’d rather argue and try to insinuate that I don’t want to really learn (that’s made up out of thin air, my friend) because I never said as such.”

Again, you distorted what I said. That’s not made up out of thin air. It’s right there in the post. You didn’t even deny doing it.

“And then continue your diatribe against Protestants, there are some churches that are cultish and don’t have Biblical doctrines.”

All of them are Protestant or pseudo-Protestant. None of them are Catholic or Orthodox.

“The point is if one openly and honestly discusses The Word of God as authoritative (and yes I believe ONLY it is) then that’s a starting point.”

People who want to “openly and honestly discuss” something don’t distort what other people say. But you did.

“And the most important question is: How is one saved (God’s way) not ours.”

A more immediate question would be is, “How can someone who distorts another person’s words be so apparently blind to his own actions?”

“I think when answering this question we’d better look to what God has said and done to demonstrate His plan!”

I think when answering that question you’d better look at what the Bible says about bearing false witness against another. Until you do that and admit your fault there’s no real chance of “open and honest” “dialogue” in any case now is there?

As John Henry Newman, a former Protestant who knew Protestantism very well wrote:

“If you would have some direct downright proof that Catholicism is what Protestants make it to be, something which will come up to the mark, you must lie; else you will not get beyond feeble suspicions, which may be right, but may be wrong. Hence Protestants are obliged to cut their ninth commandment out of their Decalogue. “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour” must go, must disappear; their position requires the sacrifice. The substance, the force, the edge of their Tradition is slander. As soon as ever they disabuse their minds of what is false, and grasp only what is true,—I do not say they at once become Catholics; I do not say they lose their dislike to our religion, or their misgivings about its working;—but I say this, either they become tolerant towards us, and cease to hate us personally,—or, at least, supposing they cannot shake off old associations, and are prejudiced and hostile as before, still they find they have not the means of communicating their own feelings to others. To Protestantism False Witness is the principle of propagation. There are indeed able men who can make a striking case out of anything or nothing, as great painters give a meaning and a unity to the commonest bush, and pond, and paling and stile: genius can do without facts, as well as create them; but few possess the gift. Taking things as they are, and judging of them by the long run, one may securely say, that the anti-Catholic Tradition could not be kept alive, would die of exhaustion, without a continual supply of fable.” (Lecture 4. True Testimony Insufficient for the Protestant View)


36 posted on 02/09/2015 10:45:40 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

All you do is babble..

I’m done with this conversation, friend.

I’ll leave with this (if you can’t or won’t even comprehend it, God Bless, but we have nothing to talk about):

Eph 2:8-9 “For by Grace you have been saved through faith, and this not of yourselves it is a gift of God that no man may boast”.

Blessings.

-JS


43 posted on 02/10/2015 9:59:09 AM PST by JSDude1 ( .)
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