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Divinum Officium: Whoever does not embrace the Catholic Christian religion will be damned
Divin Office of the Holy Catholic Church ^ | Traditional Catholic Church

Posted on 02/20/2015 2:37:38 AM PST by Repent and Believe

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To: CynicalBear
And the sun “will be” hot next year also.

I totally agree. It will be hot. But it's also hot today. And so you don't hear a lot of people saying "the sun will be hot" instead of "the sun is hot" because the former would be a meaningless use of the future tense.

But Christ doesn't say meaningless things. What he says is the very essence of meaning. So if he used the future tense he used it for a reason. If you have an idea for a different reason than what other Christians think, I'm all ears. But if you think there was no reason at all I would urge you to reconsider your unique opinion.

241 posted on 02/24/2015 12:05:44 PM PST by edwinland
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>>If you have an idea for a different reason than what other Christians think,<<

He was talking in human terms about something that has existed in the spirit realm. Catholics like to use that concept with the Eucharist but not with anything else. What's up with that?

242 posted on 02/24/2015 12:08:44 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
>>If you have an idea for a different reason than what other Christians think,<< He was talking in human terms about something that has existed in the spirit realm. Catholics like to use that concept with the Eucharist but not with anything else. What's up with that?

Great! We're finally done debating whether the English translations of the Bible correctly reflect the Greek in this case (they do) and whether Catholics have a unique position on these translations (they don't) and now we're onto the relationship between the world and the spiritual realm. Where to start?! I say let's meet in another thread!

243 posted on 02/24/2015 12:30:55 PM PST by edwinland
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To: GeronL

“No church is not the savior, no matter how badly it wants to be.”

Who said the following?:
“Whose sins you shall forgive they are forgiven; whose sins you shall retain they are retained.”

What does it mean for sins to be retained?

The church did not give itself power over the souls of men. It is not a matter of wanting to be the savior, it is a matter of a responsibility conferred upon priests by The Savior.


244 posted on 02/25/2015 5:25:20 AM PST by Repent and Believe (...prelates must be questioned, even publicly, by their subjects. - Saint Thomas Aquinas)
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