Is There A Purgatory?

In Plain Site ^ | Feb.22,2015 | Jason Engwer

[CynicalBear]

>>No one will have any awareness before the resurrection.<<

Revelation 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

No one ey?

[G Larry]

Hey Bear, this is the first time you’ve taken up sides with the Catholic Church and against ES.

[CynicalBear]

Agreeing with scripture is a far cry from agreeing with the Catholic Church and if you think this is the first time disagreeing with what ES teaches you’re not paying attention.

[G Larry]

LOL!

Agreeing with Scripture IS agreeing with the Catholic Church.

The discrepancies reside in your flawed interpretation.

[CynicalBear]

>>Agreeing with Scripture IS agreeing with the Catholic Church.<<

No Larry, it's not. The errors of the Catholic Church start in Genesis with "she shall crush your head" all the way through to Revelation with "the woman is Mary". The errors go from "thou shalt not do so unto the Lord your God" in Deuteronomy to sinning against "thou shalt no eat the blood". The Catholic Church is based more on paganism then it is on scripture.

[G Larry]

You’re riot!

You’d like us to believe that Christ didn’t mean what he said:

“John 6:53 when he declared to his followers, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.”

And pretend that Old Testament laws were non superseded by the New Covenant.

[CynicalBear]

>>And pretend that Old Testament laws were non superseded by the New Covenant.<<

First, Jesus and that apostles were under the Old Covenant laws until after Jesus death and resurrection so would have been sinning had they eaten blood. Second, the Holy Spirit through the apostles continued the injunction against eating blood in the New Testament.

Acts 15:28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, and from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

[G Larry]

John 6:53 IS after the Resurrection, and Christ meant what he said.

Acts 15:28 is NOT a contradiction of John 6:53.

[CynicalBear]

>>Acts 15:28 is NOT a contradiction of John 6:53.<<

You are correct because in John 6 Jesus is NOT talking about real physical blood.

[iowacornman]

I thought Jesus was sacrificed His life for our sins ??? Atonement? imputed righteousness? When He did die on the cross , we went right into the Book of life as long as we accept Him as the son of God. We stand before God totally righteous as a joint heir with Christ washed white as snow. Read Paul in Romans 7 as to his continuation in Sin even as he wrote to the Roman believers. What is Sin?— please make a list of all acts of commission and omission for us to follow so we don't mess up.

[DungeonMaster]

That’s a lot of text for a question with an obvious no answer.

[iowacornman]

Not sure I see your point with John 3:18. I certainly think it cements my point. My Point being that we must believe that Christ is the Son of God and then we are not condemned and that is the only way to eternal life. You can’t find eternal life in “hell” any where in the Bible. You just go to the grave.

[Elsie]

The errors of the Catholic Church start in Genesis with...

And come to an end quite glaringly in Revelation with the ERRORS of the seven CATHOLIC churches being displayed for ALL the world to see.

[Elsie]

You’d like us to believe that Christ didn’t mean what he said:

Mark 7:26-27
 26.  The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.
 27.  "First let the children eat all they want," he told her, "for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."

[Elsie]

John 6:53 IS after the Resurrection, and Christ meant what he said.

HMMMmmm...

[Elsie]

I can find nothing in THIS reply of yours to disagree with.

Although THIS I still question: There is no eternal existence in Hates. Just the grave.

[Elsie]

Not sure I see your point with John 3:18.

You being a noobie; I had no recollection of ever interacting with you before; thus my response.

I've now looked at your posting history and have come away with a wee bit better understanding of your point of view.

[Elsie]

Not sure I see your point with John 3:18.

You being a noobie; I had no recollection of ever interacting with you before; thus my response.

I've now looked at your posting history and have come away with a wee bit better understanding of your point of view.

[Elsie]

You can’t find eternal life in “hell” any where in the Bible. You just go to the grave.

I found SOMETHING...

In the story of the rich man in hell, the rich man asks Abraham to send Lazarus, "that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame."

[G Larry]

And you come by this perfect interpretation how?