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1 posted on 02/22/2015 12:15:07 PM PST by RnMomof7
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2nd chance ??? ping


2 posted on 02/22/2015 12:16:14 PM PST by RnMomof7
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Otherwise known as marriage.


3 posted on 02/22/2015 12:17:11 PM PST by pke
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I don’t know.


4 posted on 02/22/2015 12:18:44 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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Um, haven’t we all been there for the last six years?


5 posted on 02/22/2015 12:21:07 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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2 1 Pt 3:18-22

Beloved:
Christ suffered for sins once,
the righteous for the sake of the unrighteous,
that he might lead you to God.
Put to death in the flesh,
he was brought to life in the Spirit.
In it he also went to preach to the spirits in prison,
who had once been disobedient ....


6 posted on 02/22/2015 12:24:37 PM PST by G Larry (I'm not here to make liberals happy.)
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I’m pretty sure it’s located on the south side of Chicago!


11 posted on 02/22/2015 12:31:24 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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This should end well.


14 posted on 02/22/2015 12:37:48 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: RnMomof7; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
As just expressed on another thread, this myth is based upon a false premise of justification

For in contrast to Scripture, in which God justifies the unGodly by counting his faith as righteousness, while purifying his heart by faith by which faith he is regenerated, (Rm. 4:5; Acts 15:7-9) - though it must be the kind of a faith which effects obedience - under Roman soteriology God justifies the Godly based upon his holiness, as one is "formally justified and made holy by his own personal justice and holiness.” (Catholic Encyclopedia>Sanctifying Grace) Which is normally initially "infused" via regeneration effected by the act itself of sprinkling of water (ex opere operato), thus at that point the newly baptized is fit to enter Heaven. Thus Abraham must have become born again in Gn. 15:6.

However, due to failure to maintain this and as justification is based one one's own holiness, then under the Roman system of salvation, the RC (the EOs reject the purgatory of Rome) typically must endure postmortem "purifying torments" for an indeterminate time in purgatory until they atone for sins and once again become good enough to enter Heaven.

In seeking to support this tradition with Scripture, RC invoke 2 Maccabees 12:43ff, but which only teaches praying and making offerings for the dead if perhaps God may forgive them, and which was for those died who due to mortal sin, but which Rome holds their is no hope for.

Other texts used to support this myth either refer to present chastisement or the lost, or 1Cor. 3:8ff, which only refers to suffering the loss of rewards (and implicitly the Lord's displeasure), and which only occurs after the Lord's return, not commencing at death.

17 posted on 02/22/2015 12:47:28 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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No.


20 posted on 02/22/2015 12:52:20 PM PST by JSDude1
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It’s appointed Man to die,

then comes Judgement .

Jesus said

“It Is Finished”

Purgatory is just for Control.


24 posted on 02/22/2015 12:55:04 PM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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**Is There A Purgatory?**

Yes, and I pray that hearts will come to believe.

Prayers for The Religion Forum (Ecumenical)

25 posted on 02/22/2015 12:58:04 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Luke 23:43 Surely this DAY you will be with ME in PARADISE.


27 posted on 02/22/2015 1:04:06 PM PST by Bibman (Tea Party since 1976. Throw ALL the bums out!)
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There is no “purgatory”. The Church of MAN made it up to extort money from the families of the deceased. Christ died for ALL my sins and the sins of EVERY man, woman and child that will ever be. There is no “intermission after death.


30 posted on 02/22/2015 1:24:18 PM PST by Dallas59
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totally.not.biblical


31 posted on 02/22/2015 1:25:27 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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Yeah, it’s a ski resort in Colorado.


33 posted on 02/22/2015 1:31:01 PM PST by manic4organic (It was nice knowing you, America.)
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Modern day America?


39 posted on 02/22/2015 2:11:56 PM PST by mulligan (I)
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As long as people understand that they are saved purely and absolutely by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, who died on the cross and rose again, and who thereafter ascended to heaven, I think they are in pretty good shape.

Purgatory has nothing to hang it’s that on in my Bible, but death itself is not something we know a great deal about, we can only speculate. As long as we understand that our ties together as fellow believers are stronger and more vital than traditions of which we are fond, we should be able to disagree without being disagreeable.

Considering that we are compared to a seed planted in the earth, it seems likely that some sort of ripening process occurs most of the time, whether active or passive is a question that I don’t think is addressed.


42 posted on 02/22/2015 2:47:45 PM PST by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spots on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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Cuz one thread just wasn’t enough....lol.


49 posted on 02/22/2015 4:11:04 PM PST by piusv
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No.


54 posted on 02/22/2015 5:08:18 PM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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The parable of the wicked servant clearly describes a process of purgation. Unless Jesus was given to idle speech? No. Definitely not.

Do not pretend to understand the mind of God, because that way leads to Islam-like idolatry. Jesus gave us the parables for a reason. And if God wishes to dispense His mercy by putting souls through the trial rather than condemning them to eternal death, who are you to say He is wrong?
55 posted on 02/22/2015 5:29:50 PM PST by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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