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Question: "I am a Catholic. Why should I consider becoming a Christian?"
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Posted on 02/23/2015 9:53:14 AM PST by Gamecock

Question: "I am a Catholic. Why should I consider becoming a Christian?"

Answer: First, please understand that we intend no offense in the wording of this question. We genuinely receive questions, from Catholics, along the lines of “What is the difference between Catholics and Christians?” In face-to-face conversations with Catholics, we have literally heard, “I am not a Christian, I am Catholic.” To many Catholics, the terms “Christian” and “Protestant” are synonymous. With all that said, the intent of this article is that Catholics would study what the Bible says about being a Christian and would perhaps consider that the Catholic faith is not the best representation of what the Bible describes. As a background, please read our article on “What is a Christian?”

A key distinction between Catholics and Christians is the view of the Bible. Catholics view the Bible as having equal authority with the Church and tradition. Christians view the Bible as the supreme authority for faith and practice. The question is, how does the Bible present itself? Second Timothy 3:16-17 tells us, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.” This text tells us that Scripture is not “just the beginning,” or “just the basics,” or the “foundation for a more complete church tradition.” On the contrary, Scripture is perfectly and fully sufficient for everything in the Christian life. Scripture can teach us, rebuke us, correct us, train us, and equip us. “Bible Christians” do not deny the value of church tradition. Rather, Christians uphold that for a church tradition to be valid, it must be based on the clear teaching of Scripture and must be in full agreement with Scripture. Catholic friend, study the Word of God for yourself. In God’s Word you will find God’s description of, and intention for, His Church. Second Timothy 2:15 declares, “Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.”

A second key difference between Catholics and Bible Christians is the understanding of how we can approach God. Catholics tend to approach God through intermediaries, such as Mary or the saints. Christians approach God directly, offering prayers to no one other than God Himself. The Bible proclaims that we ourselves can approach God’s throne of grace with boldness (Hebrews 4:16). The Bible is perfectly clear that God desires us to pray to Him, to have communication with Him, to ask Him for the things we need (Philippians 4:6; Matthew 7:7-8; 1 John 5:14-15). There is no need for mediators or intermediaries, as Christ is our one and only mediator (1 Timothy 2:5), and both Christ and the Holy Spirit are already interceding on our behalf (Romans 8:26-27; Hebrews 7:25). Catholic friend, God loves you intimately and has provided an open door to direct communication through Jesus.

The most crucial difference between Catholics and Bible Christians is on the issue of salvation. Catholics view salvation almost entirely as a process, while Christians view salvation as both a completed status and a process. Catholics see themselves as “being saved,” while Christians view themselves as “having been saved.” First Corinthians 1:2 says, “To those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy.” The words “sanctified” and “holy” come from the same Greek root. This verse is declaring that Christians are both sanctified and called to be sanctified. The Bible presents salvation as a gift that is received the moment a person places faith in Jesus Christ as Savior (John 3:16). When a person receives Christ as Savior, he/she is justified (declared righteous – Romans 5:9), redeemed (rescued from slavery to sin – 1 Peter 1:18), reconciled (achieving peace with God – Romans 5:1), sanctified (set apart for God’s purposes – 1 Corinthians 6:11), and born again as a new creation (1 Peter 1:23; 2 Corinthians 5:17). Each of these is fully accomplished at the moment of salvation. Christians are then called to live out practically (called to be holy) what is already true positionally (sanctified).

The Catholic viewpoint is that salvation is received by faith, but then must be “maintained” by good works and participation in the Sacraments. Bible Christians do not deny the importance of good works or that Christ calls us to observe the ordinances in remembrance of Him and in obedience to Him. The difference is that Christians view these things as the result of salvation, not a requirement for salvation or a means of maintaining salvation. Salvation is an accomplished work, purchased by the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ (1 John 2:2). God offers us salvation and assurance of salvation because Jesus’ sacrifice was fully, completely, and perfectly sufficient. If we receive God’s precious gift of salvation, we can know that we are saved. First John 5:13 declares, “I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.”

We can know that we have eternal life, and we can have assurance of our salvation because of the greatness of Christ’s sacrifice. Christ’s sacrifice does not need to be re-offered or re-presented. Hebrews 7:27 says, “He sacrificed for their sins once for all when He offered Himself.” Hebrews 10:10 declares, “We have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.” First Peter 3:18 exclaims, “For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God.” Christ’s once-for-all sacrifice was absolutely and perfectly sufficient. Jesus declared on the cross, “It is finished” (John 19:30). Jesus’ atoning sacrifice was the full payment for all of our sins (1 John 2:2). As a result, all of our sins are forgiven, and we are promised eternal life in heaven the moment we receive the gift God offers us – salvation through Jesus Christ (John 3:16).

Catholic friend, do you desire this “so great salvation” (Hebrews 2:6)? If so, all you must do is receive it (John 1:12) through faith (Romans 5:1). God loves us and offers us salvation as a gift (John 3:16). If we receive His grace, by faith, we have salvation as our eternal possession (Ephesians 2:8-9). Once saved, nothing can separate us from His love (Romans 8:38-39). Nothing can remove us from His hand (John 10:28-29). If you desire this salvation, if you desire to have all your sins forgiven, if you desire to have assurance of salvation, if you desire direct access to the God who loves you – receive it, and it is yours. This is the salvation that Jesus died to provide and that God offers as a gift.

If you have received Jesus Christ as Savior, by faith, because of what you have read here today, please let us know by clicking on the “I have accepted Christ today” button below. Welcome to the family of God! Welcome, Catholic friend, to the Christian life!


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To: ADSUM; CynicalBear

Oops. We both forgot to give CB a courtesy ping.


261 posted on 02/23/2015 5:51:54 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: ADSUM; pgyanke
>>Jesus completed the Old Covenant with the Jews and established the New covenant. Jesus ended the mosaic laws regarding eating and other matters.<<

Jesus and the apostles were still living under the Old Testament law. The apostles also reiterated the prohibition against eating blood in Acts.

262 posted on 02/23/2015 5:52:25 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Resettozero

I’ll join you in defending that statement. I most certainly will not listen to the logic or teachings of the Catholic Church.


263 posted on 02/23/2015 5:56:38 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

So one can believe without knowing or any facts?

Sounds like someone’s method of interpretation!


264 posted on 02/23/2015 5:56:44 PM PST by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

I could rephrase. “I believe based on the evidence I have seen”. Better?


265 posted on 02/23/2015 5:58:15 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: NoCmpromiz

“Considering the apostate state of many so called Christian denominations today, I have more in common with my Roman Catholic partner than I do with a lot of Christians so called that I meet in church buildings no matter what name is on the sign out front.”

That is a very true statement. I was born and raised Catholic and remained Catholic until I was 40 (I’m 47 now). I was born again when I was 31 and remained a Catholic for nine years, mainly because I saw so many other screwed up denominations and even though I increasingly had issues with the extra-biblical doctrines within the Catholic Church, I remained there because I didn’t know where else to go. Finally some independent Baptists started up a Bible study in our neighborhood and I was blessed to eventually meet their pastor and join a Bible-believing church.

All that said, I’ve known many saved Catholics over the years and have some family members who are still Catholics but I know they’re saved. And by saved, I mean they have received Christ as Lord and Savior and believe in salvation by grace alone through faith alone and nothing else. I know some might find it hard to believe such people exist within the Church but there are many.

One of the reasons is that in many Catholic parishes, you can go to Mass for years without ever hearing about doctrines like praying to Mary and the Saints and Purgatory. Also, the core doctrine of the Catholic Church — the Nicene Creed — is the same as most Protestant denominations.

The challenge I had was that the more I studied the Bible, the harder time I had reconciling these extra-biblical doctrines with the Scriptures. I couldn’t find Purgatory anywhere and I found no biblical precedent for praying to Old Testament saints like Abraham and Moses, so I couldn’t figure out why we should be doing that today.

The only response I got was that we must put the writings of the Catechism and the “infallible” declarations of the Pope on the same level as Scripture. But common sense tells you they cannot have the same authority because the latter two lack authors with a direct connection to Christ like most of the New Testament writers had. Not to mention the history of corruption within the papacy throughout the centuries.

Suffice it to say, the Catholic Church itself has issues to be sure, and when I was a Catholic, I had no problem admitting that. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of saved people there. One of the main reasons I decided it was time to part company was when my daughter turned 5 or 6 and I could not in good conscience raise her in a church and at the same time tell her to ignore certain practices. Also, at the end of the day, if one is a devout Catholic, it seems that they would end up with at least a partial works-righteousness theology just based on the Purgatory doctrine alone.

I could be totally off base, but this is just my view after spending many decades in the Catholic Church.


266 posted on 02/23/2015 5:59:46 PM PST by lquist1
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To: Gamecock

Brother, I caution you. You are dangerously close to beliefs that can only lead to hellfire. You are taking it upon yourself to determine what only God can know. Only God can judge who has or has not been saved, who is or is not among his flock.

What you express here is very like the same sin that Satan was guilt of: pride. Only those with too much pride could possibly believe that they could cast judgement upon the immortal souls of their peers. “Judge not; lest ye be judged.”

I beg you to remember that Jesus wanted us to be humble, not proud. And I can think of nothing more prideful than declaring who is or is not saved.

The devil’s tongue speaks through your lips...


267 posted on 02/23/2015 6:05:55 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

By proclaiming Christ alone? I think not.


268 posted on 02/23/2015 6:09:19 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval line officer.)
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To: lquist1
>> I know some might find it hard to believe such people exist within the Church but there are many.<<

I don't find that hard to believe at all.

269 posted on 02/23/2015 6:12:56 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: lquist1
I know some might find it hard to believe such people exist within the Church but there are many.

There are many former Roman Catholic families in the Church I belong to, several ex-RCC members are in leadership positions. One uniform part of their testimonies is the same as yours regarding RCC de-emphasis on the Holy Bible and emphasis more on traditions of men not instituted by Jesus or any of the Apostles.

I've heard that "there are bound to be genuine believers in Lord Jesus Christ within the confines of the RCC and I take your encouraging word for it. More are likely to be leaving that religion (coming out of her) in the weeks and months that may come. I understand God has promised to wait until the fullness of the gentiles comes in.

Most of my dealings in recent times have been with the strident Catholics who post erratically on FR, one of whom claims to be an RCC priest. Mutual respect evades us both.
270 posted on 02/23/2015 6:15:42 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: CynicalBear; pgyanke

You forget that Jesus created the laws and He specially told us to eat His Body and Blood for our salvation.

I accept the words of Jesus and receive His Body and Blood at Mass.

If you do not wish to do so, then you can explain it to Him if you get the chance to meet Him.


272 posted on 02/23/2015 6:18:21 PM PST by ADSUM
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To: dartuser

How do you know if you are short

Ask the Holy Spirit.


273 posted on 02/23/2015 6:22:47 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

As a sidebar, what means this and what language is it?

Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!


274 posted on 02/23/2015 6:23:18 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: CynicalBear

Not really. The prohibition against drinking blood is from the Old Testament. I can’t find an example of Jesus saying ‘do not eat or drink blood.’ Jesus contradicted Old Testament laws on several occasions, by not requiring the apostles to follow strict handwashing laws, by associating with tax collectors and Samaritans. So by OT law, Jesus WAS a sinner. Is that the same standard you attempt to hold him to? Because He really did say what he said and contradicted the OT.

That was what caused the uproar, and when questioned about it He restated and clarified that that was indeed what He meant. Why would He allow people to leave Him without saying ‘of course I’m speaking figuratively’? Did He think they were too stupid to save? Why would He lose souls over misunderstanding? Why would He only want those to stay with Him who knew immediately that He was being figurative and not correct those who were upset because they mistakenly took Him literally? Did He drive them away on purpose?

He also confirmed His literal meaning at the last supper, saying ‘This is my blood’. He is not comparing Himself to it, He is saying that it is His, and He then tells us what to do with it. Nowhere is He stated to have said, ‘this represents my blood’. Surely He knew that the concept of eating flesh and drinking blood was controversial. And by now it was obvious that some people when told about this in the future would take Him literally as had happened before. Why would He risk losing disciples and having His purpose be misunderstood for all time at this most critical moment?

You do not wish to take this example of Christ’s words literally, I understand that. But you should not fault those who do accept those words as literal. You may believe that the people who stayed with Jesus did so because they understood him to be speaking figuratively, but I believe just the opposite, and there is again no clear explanation in scripture to tell us which one is the absolute truth. We have to make our own judgement based on our interpretation of the context and preceding and following events.

1 Corinthians 11:29 being a strong example for the literal interpretation. ‘For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.’ Would partaking of a symbol unworthily carry such a penalty?

I don’t think your interpretation is impossible, I just think it is wrong. I don’t judge you and I am not convinced that your beliefs are evil and will keep you from salvation even though you are apparently convinced of this about my beliefs.

Jesus also said He was the way, the truth and the life, and I believe that literally, too. Some may believe that this was also figurative. Who gets to draw the lines? And I actually do believe He was ‘the lamb’, literally. Not ‘a lamb’ but ‘The Lamb’ of God, the perfect sacrifice.

Love, O2

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275 posted on 02/23/2015 6:26:16 PM PST by omegatoo (You know you'll get your money's worth...become a monthly donor!)
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To: CynicalBear

Not necessarily. Was it based on 1 or 2 individuals?

It was a provocative statement that doesn’t lead anyone to following God’s will.


276 posted on 02/23/2015 6:26:40 PM PST by ADSUM
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To: Resettozero; Charles H. (The_r0nin)

It looks like Anglo Saxon.


277 posted on 02/23/2015 6:28:07 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: omegatoo

Forget your tagline tagline tagline and deal with this your statement:

omegatoo : “So by OT law, Jesus WAS a sinner.”


278 posted on 02/23/2015 6:28:20 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

Anglo-Saxon (Old English)

It means “Listen, [’Hwaet’ becomes the modern English word ‘what’ and is pronounced very much like it] knowledge [’lore’] is the greatest [’most’] treasure [’hoard’], truly!”


279 posted on 02/23/2015 6:31:29 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Good eye!


280 posted on 02/23/2015 6:32:26 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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