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Joel Osteen promotes the warrior mentality
Christianity Today ^ | 26 February 2015 | Czarina Ong

Posted on 02/27/2015 8:36:46 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: TBP; Lee N. Field

**http://www.scienceofmind.com/e-mail/archives/2012/newsletter_january_02.html**

Is this your religious tribe?


61 posted on 02/27/2015 12:47:05 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Infantry officer.)
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To: Gamecock

I know he’s never said that. that’s the /s


62 posted on 02/27/2015 12:50:10 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Gamecock

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Yes she is!

Not exactly the typical parson’s wife.

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63 posted on 02/27/2015 12:53:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TBP; Gamecock

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>> “IOW, you believe in collective guilt.” <<

We have nothing collectively.

We stand alone and naked before God.

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64 posted on 02/27/2015 12:58:08 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TBP

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>> “Let go and let God” <<

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Meaningless slogan.
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65 posted on 02/27/2015 1:00:43 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Billthedrill

all the arms in the world are useless if you never use them.

We have enough non muslim terrorists in our own Country causing hell and I don’t see anyone taking them on. The men of yesteryear are different then most men today.


66 posted on 02/27/2015 1:09:13 PM PST by roofgoat
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To: rabidralph

you are correct. But without physical hands on force/action, you, me and our families won’t last long in the future. All the praying in the world without brutal, tough action won’t stop the bad guys from killing and raping, here or overseas.


67 posted on 02/27/2015 1:12:50 PM PST by roofgoat
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To: TBP
So if your ancestors did something wrong, you’re tainted with evil and you need to be held accountable for their actions? Does that make sense?

Yes we are tainted with evil due to what our ancestors did.

No, I don't see us as being accountable for our ancestors' actions.
We are accountable for our own, but we have inherited what they've given us, good and bad, so to that degree you might say we are accountable.
You might say we were set up.

And yes, it does make sense from a certain point of view, given our inheritance from the first parents and what all have done since to saturate this world with sin.

It's hard for us to find, let alone stay on, the Path of Virtues in this world.

68 posted on 02/27/2015 1:18:07 PM PST by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: Gamecock
I believe what Scripture teaches.

OK, then do you accept the following?

"You are the light of the world."

"It is the Father's good pleasure to give you the Kingdom."

Do you accept that we are the image and likeness of God? Do you think that is an actual physical image and likeness? (I'm fond of Voltaire's remark, "God created man in His image and likeness and man promptly returned the favor.")

"I have said, ye shall be as Gods."

69 posted on 02/27/2015 2:02:02 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Not at all. It means that God is at work and your job is to stop trying to force things and let God do it. Those things that we cannot do of our own effort, we turn over to God. We let go and let God.


70 posted on 02/27/2015 2:04:25 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Gamecock

Simple. I don’t believe that we inherit the actions, consequences, and responsibilities of others. We inherit their “stuff” (such as my dad’s car, which I now own), but not their lives or their actions or the consequences of their actions.

If your father commits a crime and dies before his sentence is complete, should you be forced to finish it out? That’s the “logic” of “original sin”.


71 posted on 02/27/2015 2:08:14 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

So show me the basis in Scripture.


72 posted on 02/27/2015 2:09:18 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Infantry officer.)
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To: Gamecock

There is something wrong with a mansion? You have a problem with people being prosperous and abundant?


73 posted on 02/27/2015 2:11:39 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
When everything seems against you, don’t give up, don’t give in, don’t feel sorry for yourself. ‘Having done all, stand’

Exactly!

What we focus on expands in our awareness and in our lives. Focus on the light, not the tunnel. Focus on the silver lining, not the cloud.

74 posted on 02/27/2015 2:14:27 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Many ministers have books, and all ministries run on donations.


75 posted on 02/27/2015 2:15:03 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Gamecock

Not changing the subject at all. You said you “believe what Scripture teaches.” So I was asking you about specific Biblical points. Do you believe those? yes or no?


76 posted on 02/27/2015 2:17:26 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
"There's more to you than there is to you." -- Max Bialystock to Leo Bloom in The Producers.
77 posted on 02/27/2015 2:18:09 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Not exactly the typical parson’s wife.

Probably not. So?

BTW, she's a minister herself, I believe.

78 posted on 02/27/2015 2:19:40 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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>>If your father commits a crime and dies before his sentence is complete, should you be forced to finish it out? That’s the “logic” of “original sin”.<<

Not really. Carnally man can not understand the concept. It's a spiritual reality not a carnal one. The spiritual affects the carnal propensity.

79 posted on 02/27/2015 2:27:09 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: TBP

I did say that, but the topic at hand was original sin, so let’s focus in on that rather than changing the subject.


80 posted on 02/27/2015 2:36:38 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Infantry officer.)
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