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Getting Back to the Ancient Church (Reprise)
The Cripplegate ^ | October 14, 2014 | Nathan Busenitz

Posted on 02/28/2015 12:17:20 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: CynicalBear

you didn’t answer my question, those who daily attack the Christian faith have a habit of doing that.


61 posted on 03/01/2015 9:21:52 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: CynicalBear
Thanks for proving my point.

I have looked online for anyone else who might support your odd ideas on the drinking of blood. All I can find is the Jehovah Witnesses.

Then there are the Pharisees of His own day. That healing on the Sabbath business and whatnot.

62 posted on 03/01/2015 9:22:13 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; Iscool
>>where in the Scriptures does it say that drinking the blood of Christ is a sin??<<

Leviticus 17:10 "I will set my face against any Israelite or any foreigner residing among them who eats blood, and I will cut them off from the people."

Was Christ an Israelite or not?

63 posted on 03/01/2015 9:24:37 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; Iscool; CynicalBear
where in the Scriptures does it say that drinking the blood of Christ is a sin??

chapter and verse please

Is disobeying God a sin or not?

64 posted on 03/01/2015 9:26:25 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: don-o; CynicalBear; Iscool

our friend says the Scriptures prohibit drinking blood.

but we must take ALL the Scriptures, not cherry pick.

we are commanded to drink the blood of Christ, if we do not, we have no life in us. ( as some are making a fine point of proving )

so again, I ask CB and iscool, chapter and verse where the Scriptures say it is a sin to drink the blood of Christ??


65 posted on 03/01/2015 9:26:57 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: don-o
See here.
66 posted on 03/01/2015 9:27:06 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: don-o
It is an example of how sola scriptura engenders confusion.

The catechism of the Catholic church isn't interpreted the same way by everyone. Catholics are all over the map on how THAT is to be interpreted, so the same charge can be laid that the RCC's feet.

Until every single Catholics agrees lockstep with the CCC, the CCC engenders confusion.

67 posted on 03/01/2015 9:28:35 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; one Lord one faith one baptism; Iscool

The blood of every sacrifice was not to be eaten.


68 posted on 03/01/2015 9:29:06 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Did Jesus sin by healing on the Sabbath?


69 posted on 03/01/2015 9:29:35 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: CynicalBear; metmom

Leviticus does not mention drinking the blood of Christ.

where does it teach drinking the blood of Christ is a sin?

Christians obey the WHOLE Scripture and the NT supercedes the OT.

John 6:53

truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and DRINK HIS BLOOD, you have no life in you.


70 posted on 03/01/2015 9:31:03 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: CynicalBear; don-o
>>If it does not symbolize blood, then what does it symbolize?<<

Where did I ever say it "symbolized" blood? Christ said it was a remembrance of His shed blood. He didn't say it was in reality His physical shed blood.

And then Jesus admitted it was juice of the grape, not blood...

Mar 14:25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.

71 posted on 03/01/2015 9:31:47 AM PST by Iscool
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To: metmom; CynicalBear; Iscool

Is disobeying God a sin or not?


yes, disobeying God is a sin.


72 posted on 03/01/2015 9:33:10 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; don-o; Iscool
>>so again, I ask CB and iscool, chapter and verse where the Scriptures say it is a sin to drink the blood of Christ??<<

Acts 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

and from blood. No exceptions.

73 posted on 03/01/2015 9:33:35 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
Don't eat the blood, the life is in the blood

Genesis 9:4 But you shall not eat flesh with its life , that is, its blood.

Leviticus 3:17 It shall be a statute forever throughout your generations, in all your dwelling places, that you eat neither fat nor blood.”

Leviticus 7:26-27 Moreover, you shall eat no blood whatever, whether of fowl or of animal, in any of your dwelling places. Whoever eats any blood, that person shall be cut off from his people.”

Leviticus 17:10-14 “If any one of the house of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn among them eats any blood, I will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people. For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, No person among you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger who sojourns among you eat blood.

“Any one also of the people of Israel, or of the strangers who sojourn among them, who takes in hunting any beast or bird that may be eaten shall pour out its blood and cover it with earth. For the life of every creature is its blood: its blood is its life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off.

Leviticus 19:26 “You shall not eat any flesh with the blood in it. You shall not interpret omens or tell fortunes.

Deuteronomy 12:16 Only you shall not eat the blood ; you shall pour it out on the earth like water.

Deuteronomy 12:23 Only be sure that you do not eat the blood, for the blood is the life , and you shall not eat the life with the flesh.

Deuteronomy 15:23 Only you shall not eat its blood; you shall pour it out on the ground like water.

Acts 15:12-29 And all the assembly fell silent, and they listened to Barnabas and Paul as they related what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles. After they finished speaking, James replied, “Brothers, listen to me. Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written,

“‘After this I will return, and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen; I will rebuild its ruins, and I will restore it, that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who are called by my name, says the Lord, who makes these things known from of old.’

Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues.”

Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers, with the following letter:

“The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

Then again, we're hearing from the church that calls their priests *father* when Jesus Himself commanded His disciples to not be addressed with religious titles nor to call any religious leader *father*.

Obeying the clear commands of Jesus seems to be a real stumbling block for Catholics.

They'd rather obey their church.

74 posted on 03/01/2015 9:33:36 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Then when God says “do not” and people do, then they are sinning.

So when God says *Do not eat the blood* it means *do not eat the blood* and when they do, they are disobeying God, aka, sinning.


75 posted on 03/01/2015 9:35:22 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: don-o
>>Did Jesus sin by healing on the Sabbath?<<

No, unless you can show where God said that doing good on the Sabbath was a sin. It was only the Pharisees that said it was and we can see what Jesus thought of the Pharisees.

76 posted on 03/01/2015 9:36:05 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; metmom; Iscool
>>yes, disobeying God is a sin.<<

"thou shalt not eat the blood" - God

77 posted on 03/01/2015 9:38:04 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Iscool; metmom; don-o; CynicalBear

Matthew 26:27-28

and he took a cup and when he had given thanks he gave it to them saying “drink of it, all of you. for THIS IS MY BLOOD OF THE COVENANT which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.


78 posted on 03/01/2015 9:38:31 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: CynicalBear

It’s pretty clearly spelled out, isn’t it?

But when people want to disobey God, they will rationalize it away in ways that stagger the imagination.


79 posted on 03/01/2015 9:39:48 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: CynicalBear

do we pick and choose Scriptures or must we OBEY all the Scriptures?

see post #78.


80 posted on 03/01/2015 9:39:50 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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