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Interesting. Can you supply quotes from their writings, to that effect? And when you do, can you please supply page number and edition, so that I can track the references down correctly?

Or is this your raw opinion?

Nope on both questions...When threads about Hahn and Staples and the others show up with videos or their writings revealed, there is ample biblical refutation of their theology posted...And I'm sure will happen in the future...

I don't keep a log of what these people falsely teach...

I really don't quite know what you mean by that. As opposed to what? Starving to death? Tell me: what *IS* the maximum allowable income per year (for you, and RnMomof7, etc.), beyond which they're being money-grubbing and avaricious? Are they allowed to make $30,000/year? $80,000? Do you make allowances for number of children, and cost of living increases?

My point is: these crossovers can go from one paying position in one organization, completely change their God ordained position in that religion and get re-God ordained and get paid to teach totally different beliefs in a different religion, without even going to a Catholic seminary...Seems a little fishy to me...

[paladinan]
Interesting. Can you supply quotes from their writings, to that effect? And when you do, can you please supply page number and edition, so that I can track the references down correctly? Or is this your raw opinion?

[Iscool]
Nope on both questions.

Ah. So you make baseless, unsubstantiated, and slanderous claims against a man, and you offer no retraction or expressions of regret. Gotcha. When someone slanders another and excuses themselves from even the smallest defense of the accusations, that really does a number on anyone's responsibilty to take that person's writings seriously. Just saying. And you might want to check out the "thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor" commandment, when you get a moment. When last I checked, it was still in full force.

When threads about Hahn and Staples and the others show up with videos or their writings revealed, there is ample biblical refutation of their theology posted...And I'm sure will happen in the future.

Even better. "disagreement with Dr. Hahn's theology" = "authorization to make claims about his motives". I'll leave you with this simple idea: even if Dr. Hahn's theology were 100% nonsense, that would say NOTHING about his motives for entering the Catholic Church. Logic alone (even if decency and charity are ignored) should tell that to anyone with sense.

I don't keep a log of what these people falsely teach.

Then that probably implies that you shouldn't presume to attack his theology, doesn't it? If I disagree with [x], and I bring that up in a public forum, I think I'm responsible to defend my accusation with sound reasoning; don't you? And I'll offer another reminder: whether anyone thinks that Dr. Hahn's theology is "wrong" is completely irrelevant to the issue of his motives for entering the Church... and you presumed to speak to THAT point (i.e. motive). That was as illogical as it was crass.

[Iscool]
It's interesting to note that all of these bible rejecting thinkers have moved on to money making positions in your religion...

[paladinan]I really don't quite know what you mean by that. As opposed to what? Starving to death? Tell me: what *IS* the maximum allowable income per year (for you, and RnMomof7, etc.), beyond which they're being money-grubbing and avaricious? Are they allowed to make $30,000/year? $80,000? Do you make allowances for number of children, and cost of living increases?[paladinan]I really don't quite know what you mean by that. As opposed to what? Starving to death? Tell me: what *IS* the maximum allowable income per year (for you, and RnMomof7, etc.), beyond which they're being money-grubbing and avaricious? Are they allowed to make $30,000/year? $80,000? Do you make allowances for number of children, and cost of living increases?

[Iscool]
My point is: these crossovers can go from one paying position in one organization, completely change their God ordained position in that religion and get re-God ordained and get paid to teach totally different beliefs in a different religion, without even going to a Catholic seminary...Seems a little fishy to me...

Catholic seminaries are for training Catholic priests (and deacons, sometimes)--not for training lay people, in general. Dr. Hahn was already married (and ineligible for the priesthood in the Latin Church), and he didn't feel called to the diaconate. So... I'm not sure what the problem is, here. There are plenty of Catholic Universities at which Catholic theology can be studied. But this still doesn't come close to touching your comment about his MOTIVES... for which I can find no basis, at all.