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To: paladinan; metmom
The guy had hands laid on him by two elders with no sanction from the church he claimed to be part of. He only did it to avoid taxes. The church he was a so called "pastor" in wasn't even part of the Presbyterian church. Look again.

"Mr. Hahn acknowledged these facts but offered an explanation. Trinity Presbyterian was an independent church with an average attendance of 30 when two of its elders laid hands on him in a private ceremony in 1982. He served as their Associate Pastor for about two years. The church remained independent until its closing in 1986. Mr. Hahn told me the reason for his private ceremony was because he did not feel he was very qualified to serve as an elder at age 26, but needed the ordination to take the pastor's exemption from Social Security."

He's in the same league as Al Sharpton or some other mail order pastor. He's fake, a fraud, a tax cheat, and appears after the dollar now.

110 posted on 03/03/2015 3:14:45 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
The guy had hands laid on him by two elders with no sanction from the church he claimed to be part of.

He obviously had the sanction of the local elders--right? Or are you suggesting that they were coerced? In the Presbyterian communion, "authorization" from the PCA is not required (see above references). To call Dr. Hahn's ordination "sanctionless" or "invalid in the eyes of the Presbyterians" is simply smoke-blowing.

He only did it to avoid taxes.

He ONLY did it to avoid taxes? Show me where even the biased account of the "Dr. Hahn denouncer" uses the word "only", please.

The church he was a so called "pastor" in wasn't even part of the Presbyterian church. Look again.

The church in question, according to the hostile blog, was not affiliated with the PCA. That's not the same thing, in the least. See my links, above.

He's in the same league as Al Sharpton or some other mail order pastor. He's fake, a fraud, a tax cheat, and appears after the dollar now.

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130 posted on 03/04/2015 8:31:24 AM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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