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What I Wish I’d Known About Catholics (And Why I’m Becoming One Now That I Do)
The Cordial Catholic ^ | March 19, 2015 | Albert Little

Posted on 03/20/2015 9:46:29 AM PDT by NYer

Photo Credit: Michael Caven.

Photo Credit: Michael Caven.

This Easter I become a Catholic.

It’s been a strange, unexpected journey. Something I often think about, and reflect on, is what I would’ve thought of myself, today, if I’d met me ten years ago. What if, by some miracle of space and time, the twenty year old me was able to visit the thirty year old me, today. What would the younger me think?

Becoming a Catholic is something I never could’ve imagined or envisioned.

I became a Christian at the age of about fifteen. I found an incredible local Pentecostal church, and incredible youth group, and was welcomed into a group of fantastic, devout young Christians. It’s hard to imagine all the grace I received through the friends I found and the experiences I had.

Then, at a time when so many Christians lose their faith and their identity, by the grace of God I was plugged into an incredible campus ministry in my university years. There I met lifelong friends, and my beautiful wife.

I fellowshipped, alongside my wife and our best friends, at a non-denominational church for many years. We still attend. It’s been an incredible place of grow, grace, and meeting God.

But the trajectory of my faith life—which impacts, of course, the whole of my life—changed one day when a Protestant pastor asked me what’s more important, the Bible or tradition. I didn’t have an answer, and that stumped me. And when I dug for answers, I was even more stumped, and unsatisfied. This began a long journey of searching, prayer, and unexpected discoveries.

A journey which will culminate at Easter, and continue for the rest of my life, in an entirely new direction.

What I know now, I didn’t know then. I’m becoming Catholic because of what I’ve learned—and I’ve learned it, I believe, by grace of God.

St. Francis de Sales is a favourite saint of mine. In the 16th century, as the Reformation split apart the Christian Church in Europe he wrote, preached, and worked tirelessly to explain the Catholic faith, and bring Protestants back into the fold. He was incredibly successful and something in his mission of cordially explaining his faith resonates deeply with me.

To paraphrase St. Francis de Sales to the early Protestants: If you’d known what the Catholic Church really taught you’d never have left.

In my case, if I’d known what the Catholic Church really taught, I’d have become Catholic much sooner.

Catholics Don’t Worship Mary

The Catholic Church doesn’t teach the worship of Mary. Worship (and adoration) are for God alone.

As a Protestant I thought, for a long time, that Catholics worshipped Mary alongside her son, Jesus. There are plenty of churches named in her honoured, Catholics seemed obsessed with statues of the Virgin, and the Rosary, of all things, seemed to be nothing more than vain repetition of praise for Jesus’s mother.

The reality, I’ve learned, is much different. Catholics don’t worship Mary but, because of her special role in salvation history, she is venerated. How is that different? In Catholic theology, which, remember, was the theology of the whole Christian Church for 1,500 years, we ask Mary to pray for us.

Like Mary’s request to Jesus at the wedding at Cana, Catholics believe that Mary has the ear of Jesus in a special way. This is also reflected in biblical typology—the same kind of exegesis that Jesus used to explain His role in salvation to the apostles on the road to Emmaus. In the same way I can ask my best friend—a living, breathing Christian—to pray for my intentions, the Catholic Church teaches that Mary can be asked for prayer in the same way. When Catholics say they pray, “to Mary,” they don’t mean that Mary will answer our prayers. When we “pray to” Mary, we ask for her to pray for us, to Christ.

Jesus answers all prayers. We ask Mary to pray on our behalf.

Catholics Don’t Worship the Saints

In the same way, the Catholic Church believes that holy men and women (more women than men, for the record) are, presently, in the presence of God. We call these people saints and, like the Virgin Mary, we can ask for their prayers.

As pictured in Revelation, the prayers of the saints gathered around the altar float up like incense before God. That’s why, since the very beginning of the Christian Church, there has been a strong belief in ability of the dead to pray for us—and the practice of us asking them for their prayers. This is why the earliest Christian Churches were built on sites where holy men and women were killed.

The beautiful theology of the Catholic Church says that the Church, as a body of believers, is made up of all past, present, and future Christians. We’re all one and the same and just because I pass away doesn’t mean I cease to be a part of that active body. The saints, as Christians, continue their role in the body, only now in the presence of God.

Jesus is Present in the Eucharist

For all the different Protestant branches and denominations I’ve learned that no one in Protestantism takes Jesus’s words more literally than the Catholic Church.

When Jesus said, “This is my body; this is my blood,” the Catholic Church—and the whole of Christianity for 1,500 years—takes Him at His word.

Incredibly, the Catholic theology of transubstantiation says that when the priest consecrates the elements (the bread and the wine) they become the actual body and blood of Jesus through a mysterious, miraculous process. The fact that we can’t see, touch, or taste these elements are real flesh and blood is part of the miracle.

This bold claim is backed up not only by a thousand and a half years of Church history but by solid exegesis of the gospels.

Jesus, from Bethlehem (which means “the house of bread”), who was laid into a manger (which is a feeding trough) when He was born is the actual manna from Heaven.

If I had known that I can actually receive Jesus in the Eucharist, I would’ve stormed the doors of my local Catholic Church a decade ago.

There’s Only One Mass

What strikes me as even more incredible is the Catholic theology of the act of the Eucharist itself: There’s only one.

Jesus’s sacrifice on the cross was once and for all, final, and this is something that all Protestants can get behind. The brilliant, beauty of the Mass and the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharistic elements is that it links us up with all of Christian history—past, present, and future.

Jesus only died once. When the priest prayers the Eucharistic Prayers and says, “This is my body; this is my blood,” we are, as a church community, reliving the Last Supper and Jesus’s death on the cross. We are linking up, together, with all of the other Christians who have ever, and will ever, celebrate the Eucharist. And we’re linking up with the saints, angels, the Virgin Mary, and God Himself in Heaven as we see this same celebration taking place in Revelation.

As a Catholic, then, when I go to Mass I am experiencing something universal: Jesus’s death re-presented before my eyes.

The Priest Acts as Jesus

In a similar way, I never understood the importance of the priest in Catholic theology. As a young Protestant the priest, like Mary and the saints, stood in the way of my personal relationship with Jesus. But I had it all wrong.

The priest, as understood by Catholic theology, acts as Christ. The priest is a stand-in, if you will.

In the Mass, the priests acts in the place of Jesus, as he consecrates the bread and the wine. In the blessing of people, in Baptism, in prayer, and in the healing of the sick the priest, based on the authority that Jesus gives His apostles in the New Testament, is acting in His place. Where Jesus is not tangibly, physically with us, the priest is here in His place.

In confession, the priest, based on the direct charge from Jesus, “whoever’s sins you forgive they are forgiven,” represents Christ in forgiving our sins for us.

We don’t have to imagine God among us: there He is.

God Gave Us a Real, Tangible Church

Perhaps the greatest, most incredible thing I’ve learned, and wish that I knew a long, long time ago, is that Jesus left us with a real, tangible Church.

As a Protestant, I thought of the Church as a non-physical, spiritual union of Christians all over the world. But this isn’t how Jesus meant it, I’m convinced. Because this isn’t the Church as conceived by the apostles, the fathers of the Church (who were taught by the apostles), and all Christians for more than fifteen hundred years.

As I become Catholic perhaps the greatest gift I’m to receive is union with a real, tangible Church founded by Christ.

A Church with bishops and priests who can trace their authority, historically, all the way back to the apostles. Authority that we see manifest in the New Testament as the ability to forgive sins, drive out demons, and define an understanding of doctrine. These authoritative charges, according to the Catholic Church, remain with today’s bishops and priests through Apostolic Succession.

That’s why when the priest says, “You’re forgiven,” he means it. Because Christ said he’d have that power.

Rather than having to “feel” or “know” it on our own, God gave us the beauty and the blessing of a physical, tangible Church to be His hands and feet on earth. I don’t need to pray and ask for God to give me a sense of His grace, although I certainly could, and do. But in the Eucharist, in confession, and in the knowledge that God gave us the Church, we can be certain of His grace. This, in my experience, has been the most powerful aspect of the Catholic Church—and something I wish I knew years ago.

The most beautiful gift that Jesus gave us, beyond His sacrificial offering, was the establishment of a Church to proclaim, celebrate, and safeguard truth.

There’s a lot—a lot!—I wish I’d known about the Catholic Church a long time ago. I would’ve become a Catholic. And, of course, now that I know I can’t help but do anything else. At Easter I’ll turn in a new direction, take a new path, but I suppose, really, it’s the path I’ve always been on: A slow road to Rome. But I’m finally getting there. My new orientation, then, will be to continue to explain and champion this incredible faith I’ve found. And to be a cordial Catholic.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; cordialcatholic; protestantbashing; willconvertforfood
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To: metmom
I said they DO it.

Okay by using the metric that you have established: Personal testimony means nothing and the only thing that matters is perception>As the non / anti-Catholics have said repeatedly "They know what they see..."

We can safely conclude that there are only two non-Catholics on these threads that are actually truly Christians, and the rest are simply poser wannabe's.

We have heard countless times that you all love Jesus and have Jesus in your heart, etc... but yet we have seen no evidence of it.

As a matter of fact Shakespeare says in "The Merchant of Venice" Act 1 Scene III The Devil can cite scripture....

161 posted on 03/21/2015 5:51:31 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: metmom
so no Catholic is in any position to point fingers at those Prots for allowing homosexual clergy.

Who said Clergy. I never said Clergy

Didn't you just say: Do yourself a favor and try not to misrepresent what others say. It can only do your credibility good.

Let me give you a hand with that Log in your eye. I clearly said Marriage.

162 posted on 03/21/2015 5:54:23 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: ealgeone
<>I>Still waiting on your answers to my questionsNon Sequiturs.

Keep waiting, but don't hold your breath I don't answer Non Sequiturs.

163 posted on 03/21/2015 5:57:11 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: boatbums
Thank you. That was the first thought that came to my mind.

That's probably because we're just poorly-trained Protestants. ;-)

164 posted on 03/21/2015 5:58:50 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: verga

Again...you make my point. So who you voting for? Clinton, Warren??


165 posted on 03/21/2015 6:00:21 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Resorting to personal attacks, thank you for making my point.


166 posted on 03/21/2015 6:13:00 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: verga
I just asked you another question which you refuse to answer.

I notice your good at that.

Been fun chatting.

168 posted on 03/21/2015 6:20:54 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ADSUM; Buckeye McFrog
While some may feel justified when leaving the Catholic Church (God gave us free will to do so), Jesus also stated that when you reject His Church, then you also reject Jesus.

Why don't you point us to where Jesus stated that? The only place I find that comes anywhere close to it was when He sent out His 72 disciples in Luke 10 to preach the gospel and win souls for the Kingdom of God. No mention was made of the Roman Catholic church. It's pretty clear that Jesus was speaking of the truth of the gospel. It's not His "church" that can be rejected but the good news of the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ. If one rejects THAT, then they are not part of Christ's church, His body.

The Apostle Paul makes it equally clear that if anyone preaches a gospel that is contrary to the one he preached, they are to be accursed - even if it is an "angel from heaven" or any of the Apostles!

    I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse! (Galatians 1:6-9)

169 posted on 03/21/2015 7:27:13 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Aurorales

We ask Mary to pray for us.

Where are you getting your false information?

Come back and sit down with a knowledgeable priest and get your questions answered, for you are still a Catholic, just an inactive one.


170 posted on 03/21/2015 7:46:29 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MHGinTN; EagleOne
Jesus left the tomb without rolling away the stone and appeared in the Upper room without opening a door or window. God With Us may have entered and left Mary’s womb in like fashion.

When Jesus arose as well as when he appeared within a closed room, he was in his glorified body. When he was born as a HUMAN baby, on the other hand, he was NOT in a glorified body but one of flesh and blood - flesh that would be broken and blood that would be shed for the redemption of our souls. He was born like any other human baby is born - that was the point of the incarnation.

171 posted on 03/21/2015 8:02:57 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: verga
For that smeared mirror:


172 posted on 03/21/2015 8:06:59 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Iscool

You make assumptions where you have little knowledge.


173 posted on 03/21/2015 8:08:40 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (If you haven't figured it out, there is a great falling away...happening before your eyes.)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
You make assumptions where you have little knowledge.

So your pope didn't pray to and thank Mary for saving his life??? That assumption is clearly yours...

174 posted on 03/21/2015 8:49:34 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


175 posted on 03/21/2015 9:02:18 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: MHGinTN
How would you feel about someone insulting your Mother or the memory of your Mother?

You are bringing my mother into this discussion?

What a despicable thing to do. You should be ashamed.

You should ask the Religion Moderator to remove your post.

176 posted on 03/21/2015 9:05:30 PM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ: The ONLY mediator between God and man)
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To: Syncro

You brought my Lord’s Mother into this discussion, for which it is you who should be ashamed, but clearly you haven’t a clue. ... Amazing how fast one can destroy the respect they have enjoyed ... you did it in record time, FReeper.


177 posted on 03/21/2015 9:20:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: boatbums
If you read the accounts of the crucifixion and resurrection in the Gospels you will se that Jesus told a woman not to touch him yet, outside the tomb, and why He said this. Mistakes are easily corrected if you but read the texts. ...

John 20:17

178 posted on 03/21/2015 9:27:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

You have a lot of things wrong with your opinions of what I did and did not do.

I merely stated my opinion about Mary beccoming the central figure in the Catholic church.

And you go from that to bringing up my MOTHER?

I think you are getting mixed up about the simple, humble, Jewish girl Mary that gave birth to Jesus and the Mary that Catholicism has created.


179 posted on 03/21/2015 9:30:27 PM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ: The ONLY mediator between God and man)
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To: MHGinTN

Getting personal on the RF is against the rules.

But if attacking me and my character is what makes you feel good, no problem. I won’t turn you in.

A poster who must drag my mother into his attacks is not anyone who’s respect I would want.


180 posted on 03/21/2015 9:34:43 PM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ: The ONLY mediator between God and man)
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