Posted on 03/21/2015 6:07:52 PM PDT by ebb tide
The day I knew was the day he [Francis] appointed Kasper to lead the Synod on the family and asked us to embrace and practice the heresy Kasper teaches.
There we have it straight from the horses mouth.
There is no miscommunication or misunderstanding possible. He appointed a heretic and asked the Church to embrace and practice it. The end.
The deceptive and sleaze around the Synod and the Relatio confirmed the moment Pope Francis appointed a heretic and asked the Church to embrace and practice it, in spite of it's contradiction to 2000 years of theology.
having said that, I have tried to convince myself that the Pope was misquoted, that the translation wasn't correct, that his remarks are taken out of context...
but I think I caught all the innuendo, the putdowns, the dismissals of tradition, and all the wink-wink to the leftist crowd and they are all accurate....
I don't know if true Catholics can follow this Pope..
Francis seems like a kindly old man. I like him.
Don’t let this pope discourage you. The Catholic Church has had good and bad popes but it will always prevail against the Gates of Hell.
I encourage you to come home and I will keep you in my prayers.
You need to get your stories from Zenit or other Vatican sources. Do not believe the lamestream ABCNNBCBS.
Are you kidding? The Vatican sources have been censoring Pope Francis’ sermons when he speaks about the evils of abortion.
How are they censoring him and do you have a link?
I’m interested this topic but I don’t take posts as facts.
Pope Francis concocted the Obama/Castro Faustian pact condemning the Cuban people to eternal damnation and making the American taxpayers the sugar daddy that will keep afloat theCuban Stalinist regime
Pope Francis has a sui generis pedigree.
According to Cardinal Muller, the Prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the faith, and he himself a follower of liberation theology, pope Francis have close ties with that Marxist movement.
The Jesuits have been at the front lines of the expansion of the “liberation theology” throughout Latin America.
From “Dark REBELLION in the Church” - Jesuits, theology of liberation, Carmelites, Marianists and Socialists: the final complaint.” Ricardo de la Cierva. P. 11-13 “Your theology helps the transformation of Latin America more than millions of books on Marxism” Fidel Castro to Leonardo Boff and Frei Beto in the presence of the Spanish Bishop in Brazil, Pedro Casáldiga, C.M.F., who plays end the phrase in his book Nicaragua, combat and prophecy, Madrid, helped, 1986, p.134
“The Mission of the Jesuits in the third world is to create conflict. We are the only powerful group in the world that makes it.” César Jerez S. J., provincial of Central America 1976-1982, at a meeting of Jesuits in Boston, New England Jesuit News, April, 1973.
From the link I provide above:
Something I wanted to bring to your attention is the address that Pope Francis gave on Christmas day at noon during his “Urbi et Orbi” (to the city and to the world) blessing. He mentioned the babies in the womb, and his exact words in that section of his address were as follows:
“The Child Jesus. My thoughts turn to all those children today who are killed and ill-treated, be they infants killed in the womb, deprived of that generous love of their parents and then buried in the egoism of a culture that does not love life; be they children displaced due to war and persecution, abused and taken advantage of before our very eyes and our complicit silence. I think also of those infants massacred in bomb attacks, also those where the Son of God was born. Even today, their impotent silence cries out under the sword of so many Herods. On their blood stands the shadow of contemporary Herods. Truly there are so many tears this Christmas, together with the tears of the Infant Jesus.”
Now the broadcast of this involves a feed that comes from the Vatican, whereby you hear the Pope speaking in Italian, and then you hear a translator, who has the text in front of him, saying it in English. Interestingly, when it came to this particular paragraph, the translators skipped the words about the babies in the womb and about the modern day Herods and about the generous love of parents and the culture that does not love life. I could tell the translator was skipping something. Later, when I obtained the text of the talk from the Vatican website, I went back to the audio recording that I myself was making at that very moment that I was listening to it, and noticed in fact, the glaring omission. The rest of the entire talk was perfectly conveyed and nothing was missing.
Just amazing.
Thanks. I’ll read up on it.
That’s my mantra: the gates of hell won’t prevail against the Church, irrespective of the potential schism
I will be where you are....until,....Kaspar wins, and by winning I mean when Kaspar wrangles things around to make marriage no longer a sacrament worthy of pristine piety, by instead handily distributing Holy Eucharist to those in mortal sin.
In this case, an illicitly remarried Catholic who is in a second “marriage”, while never receiving an annulment of his, or her, first marriage.
The illicit second marriage absent an annulment will still be mortal sin, but the Catholic can receive communion anyway.
To me, one of the last great witnesses left to the fallen world, is the stark understanding and practice that is held by only the Holy Roman Church that Holy Eucharist is never to be offered or received to one known to be in mortal sin.
Kaspar would have the married Catholic man, or woman, obtain a civil divorce from their spouse, and then remarry another, before obtaining a Tribunal annulment. And in this condition of illicit remarriage absent annulment, this Catholic will be encouraged, while in a state of mortal sin, to come forward and receive Holy Eucharist.
No. Way.
The Church becomes protestant of Herself, and a divided mind can not stand. Or something like that.
I do expect, by the grace of God, His intervention.
If the Pope can not, or will not, put a stop to the damage being attempted and arranged today against the laws of God and the Holy Roman Church, then God will intervene against this blasphemy and against those who promulgate it. Sacred Scripture assures it.
As for us, we prepare to be purified as by fire, as we endure until the end. We are His “little ones”. He will surely shepherd us home.
I’m kinda of your point of view, Montana. There is so much caricaturing of this Pope as a flaming liberal, a Communist, etc, etc. And yet his strong Pro-Life words, his strong defenses of marriage, etc, etc, show the portrayal of him to be a far leftist as inaccurate.
On the other hand, might he personally hold beliefs that take the Mercy thing too far in wanting to extend Holy Communion to Catholics divorced without an annulment? Possibly. Is he a moderate-conservative to the left of B16 and JP2? Probably.
Who knows but God how many Popes over 20 centuries have personally held erroneous views not of the mind of the Church on this or that. But they have NOT been permitted to formally, infallibly teach error. The teaching from Vatican I is that if a Pope tried to formally, infallibly teach error, the See of Peter becomes vacant.
That way they can try out various approaches ranging from subtle to egregiously absurd in order to gauge which approach is most entertaining for regular corps of anti-Catholic, anti-Christian, chatter boxes who claim to be some flavor of Protestant while denying what Christ Himself clearly states as a fact.
JMHo
The Church is not a personality cult. Its establishment, the cardinals, elected him. Like Obama, he did not seize his office, he was elected. He is a symptom of a disorder. The most prominent symptom is still just a symptom.
Although the author is a tad heated at times, I believe he gets that. The Church is afflicted.
We must pray for individual fools and even scoundrels, for we are all on one spectrum with them, all in need of Christ’s light on our path, in need of chastisement and mercy.
And after we pray we should, as the writer proposes, get up and DO something.
What can be done?
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