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Oh, now - this is absolutely HILARIOUS. Seriously? Are you so embarrassed to answer the question that THIS is all you can muster? If so, it’s sad. Oh, well. For a little fun:
CCC 841 became known to you only long after you probably first of the God of Abraham. So, now that you know that Muslims profess belief in the God of Abraham do profess belief in the God of Abraham? Yes or No.

By avoiding this question, are you insinuating that because Muslims profess belief in the God of Abraham you won’t?

Are you really saying you won’t say you profess belief in the God of Abraham just because Muslims do? If not, you may not actually believe in the one true living God - and you certainly are not showing any strength of faith if you are in fact too afraid to state that belief just because Muslims do. If so, I pity you.

“I believe in the God of Abraham.”

Good! And so do Muslims and Jews and all Christians. Thus you cannot logically disagree with CCC 841. You can only make what is a thoroughly mendacious argument to the contrary. By your admission you have shown that you and Muslims agree.

Do YOU believe in him? Or do you not believe in the “God of Abraham” as CCC 841 notes Muslims do? Do you know that you share a profession of belief with Muslims and Jews? Can you stand that? Can you accept that?

Muslims profess belief in the God of Abraham. Jews profess belief in the God of Abraham. Christians profess belief in the God of Abraham. And you have too now.

“Jews believe in the same God of Abraham as do Christians. Muslims don’t.”

So you’re saying Jews believe in the Trinity? Christians believe the God of Abraham is a Trinity of Divine Persons. Are you claiming Jews believe in the Trinity?

I keep pitchin’ ‘em, and you keep missin’ ‘em. (Foghorn Leghorn)

BTW — thanks for the comedy you’re turning this into — you know, claiming Jews believe in the Trinity and all. You only need to answer yes or no to my questions - especially that one about your false claim about Jews believing in the Trinity! I’ll keep answering, but oddly, you will refuse most likely.

“I believe in the God of Abraham.”

Are you a liberal journalist? Nice cherry pick. Here... let me add the rest of the story for you (by the way, this is called "in context)

By this question, are you insinuating that God, before Exodus 3 was somehow not the same eternal God that names himself IN Exodus 3? If so, you may not actually believe in the one true living God; if so, I pity you. I believe in the God of Abraham. In Exodus 3 and before. And after. Yahweh is the same God, eternal, and unchanging. Do YOU believe in him? Or do you believe in the same "God" as the Muslims in CCC 841? Do you 'acknowledge' and 'adore' the same "God" the Muslims do in CCC841?

Now then. The entire answer is there, not just the part you wanted. Now. Muslims do NOT believe in the same God as Jews and Christians. How on earth do you get this? How? Is not the God of Abraham also the Father of Jesus Christ? Unchanging and everlasting? Muslims do NOT believe that Jesus is the Son of God. So how do YOU manage to extrapolate that they believe in the same God as Jews and Christians? By the very teaching in the Koran it's obvious that their God, "Allah" is made from whole cloth and is no way the God of Christianity or Judaism.

I'm stunned that you would utter such bilge.

Now this is the MOST hilarious and sad part of your posting:

Thus you cannot logically disagree with CCC 841. You can only make what is a thoroughly mendacious argument to the contrary. By your admission you have shown that you and Muslims agree.

My actual answer in no way assents to that in the least; however, the part you chose to include in YOUR posting might appear to do what you say. However, you only chose to include a part of my answer. That seems to me to be an intent to obfuscate the issue. So again: are you a liberal journalist?

I in no way agree with the Muslims. However, your CCC does. And it, by extension, requires you to agree as well. Which means, sadly, you agree with the position that Roman Catholics do not worship the God of Christianity, but the "God" of Islam.

Jews believe in the same Yahweh Christians do; they just don't believe the Messiah has come yet. Simple enough for you? Muslims (and apparently Catholics) do NOT believe in the same God of Abraham. It's that Old Testament/New Testament thing versus the Koran. You might look into it.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- and this time, it's even more sad -- how I do pity you. I'm serious. My heart breaks for you. You repost what what I ask, and try childishly to turn it into some sort of gotcha instead of just answering the question. It's the seemingly Roman Catholic version of "Im rubber and you're glue -- whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you!!! Neener neener!"

Sorry Vlad. I graduated from that form of logic back in elementary school. I wish you would. I wish you could actually answer the simple question I asked. I really do. Your soul's eternity depends on it.

Hoss

Thus you cannot logically disagree with CCC 841.

HMMMmmm...

Izzat so???

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."³³⁰

Who IS the Creator??

John 1:3

Colossians 1:16

1 Corinthians 8:6

John 1:10