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To: Zuriel

“Am I surprised of another classy statement, designed to avoid answering questions?”

Your questions were completely irrelevant. Here, I’ll show you. I will respond to most of your irrelevant questions with questions that show they are irrelevant in their very form. Here are your questions:

Question 1: The Nonsensical:

1) “So, If you die tomorrow, and a police officer is planning on giving me a traffic ticket, are you saying that you can STILL help me out?”

My response: Are you saying prayers before God can’t help with something mundane?

Questions 2-4: Your apparent dodge when you got caught out about misrepresenting what “with” means:

2) “And that’s one of the word power means to help build Mary up in importance. Did the centurion intercede with Jesus to heal his servant?”

My response: Are you saying he didn’t? Luke 7:3.

3) “Did Abraham intercede with God to spare Lot?”

My Response: Did you read Genesis 18:22-19:29?

4) “Did Moses intercede with God to spare Israel from being consumed by God’s wrath?”

My response: Did you read Deuteronomy 9 and Exodus 32? Are you saying Moses didn’t intercede?

“To me, it is all under this category: Let your requests be made known unto God.”

It doesn’t matter what categories you invent. Nothing you say or invent changes what is.

Question 5: The Question which shows a lack of knowledge to say the least:

“But you guys are basically joined at the hip anyway, right?”

Nope.

So there. I posted a response to every one of your meaningless questions I originally skipped over in that last part of your post and you know what? Your questions were meaningless just like I said they were. They are all useless, silly questions. Some are sheer repetition. Some have nothing to do with what we’re even talking about or are irrelevant to the import of what we were talking about. Like I said, the rest of your post was meaningless. This proves it.

“Call it intercession, or a request, or a panic attack, or whatever you want”

YOU called it a prayer. Now you’ll have to live with it.

“List them.”

No. Read the posts.

“USE scripture to prove your judgement.”

I used more scripture in this post than you used in your last post. And, unlike you did earlier on, I actually used verses that actually worked with the issue at hand.

“Otherwise you are just making presumptions and unsubstantiated claims.”

Just remember, YOU said Mary’s intercession was a PRAYER.

Have a great Easter (knowing Mary’s intercession was a PRAYER according to your own words).


804 posted on 04/05/2015 8:56:35 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
Just remember, YOU said Mary’s intercession was a PRAYER.


I like it when Catholic folks say things that they believe about Mary!


 
 
 
Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.

Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.

Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.

Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.

Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.

807 posted on 04/06/2015 4:31:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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