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To: daniel1212

The authority was to Peter and his successors. This is Petrine authority. It was the Church that authenticated the canonical texts. If you doubt Petrine authority, then you must also for sure have doubts on whether the canonical books chose by the Church are indeed the true written word of God.

You can’t have it both ways. Dispute Petrine authority and also accept the selection of books made by the Church is the true written Word of God. This is why preeminent Protestant and Episcopalian theological have after a lifetime of intense study and instruction have converted to Catholicism.


65 posted on 03/28/2015 10:21:33 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
The authority was to Peter and his successors. This is Petrine authority.

So what are you , a propaganda machine? Do you think parroted these vain assertions makes them true, though it may comfort you?

It was the Church that authenticated the canonical texts. If you doubt Petrine authority, then you must also for sure have doubts on whether the canonical books chose by the Church are indeed the true written word of God.

What kind of absurd logic is that? Besides the fact that it took Rome over 1400 years to provide an infallible, indisputable canon, do you realize where this historical magisterium =veracity logic takes you? To requiring 1st century souls to submit to those unto whom "were committed the oracles of God." (Romans 3:2) "Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen." (Romans 9:4-5; cf (Gn. 12:2,3; 17:4,7,8; Ex. 19:5; Lv. 10:11; Dt. 4:31; 17:8-13; Ps, 11:4,9; Is. 41:10, Ps. 89:33,34; Jer. 7:23)

Instead, the church actually began in dissent from those who sat in the seat of Moses over Israel, (Mt. 23:2) who were the historical instruments and stewards of Scripture. And followed an itinerant Preacher whom the magisterium rejected, and whom the Messiah reproved them Scripture as being supreme, (Mk. 7:2-16) and established His Truth claims upon scriptural substantiation in word and in power, as did the early church as it began upon this basis. (Mt. 22:23-45; Lk. 24:27,44; Jn. 5:36,39; Acts 2:14-35; 4:33; 5:12; 15:6-21;17:2,11; 18:28; 28:23; Rm. 15:19; 2Cor. 12:12, etc.)

Unlike your basis for assurance of Truth.

You can’t have it both ways.

Indeed you cannot. Either be consistent with your historical magisterium logic and remain deceived or be like the NT church and make Scriptural substantiation your supreme authority and basis for discernment of Truth. Your choice and eternity.

67 posted on 03/28/2015 10:41:50 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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