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No, they are denying the words of Jesus Christ

No, we understand what they actually mean.

The doctrine you're describing makes no sense. This isn't all just an academic exercise. But that's the way you're treating it.

You're describing an unknowable God. A mystical, magical being that's every where and no where, is two people sometimes, then three, then back to one... that's nonsense,IMO.

But hey, you're free to believe what ever you want.

No man has seen God the Father, unless Jesus shows Him. No person can stand in the presence of the Father, and survive, without being transfigured by the Holy Ghost first.

Joseph Smith saw God which he was meant to do. This cleared up all this mystical magical nonsense.

We are made in the image of God. We are called the children of God. Children grow up to be like their parents. We will be resurrected, why? Because that's how we become like our Father in Heaven. Jesus was the first. It's simple.

No man has seen God the Father, unless Jesus shows Him.

Oh??

John 14:5-11

⁵Thomas saith to him: Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

⁶Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me.

⁷If you had known me, you would without doubt have known my Father also: and from henceforth you shall know him, and you have seen him.

⁸Philip saith to him: Lord, shew us the Father, and it is enough for us.

⁹Jesus saith to him: Have I been so long a time with you; and have you not known me? Philip, he that seeth me seeth the Father also. How sayest thou, shew us the Father?

¹⁰Do you not believe, that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak to you, I speak not of myself. But the Father who abideth in me, he doth the works.

¹¹Believe you not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?

BEWARE!

There be some sneaky Trinitarian doctrine in the above verses!

John 14:1-4

1 Let not your heart be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in me.

²In my Father's house there are many mansions. If not, I would have told you: because I go to prepare a place for you.

³And if I shall go, and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and will take you to myself; that where I am, you also may be.

⁴And whither I go you know, and the way you know.

Folks; do you realize that Mormonism's own data shows that very few Mormons will ever get to reside with the Father in Heaven?

Yeah! About 15% is the figure that has not been disputed.

HEAVEN-The Mormon church teaches there are three levels of heaven (three "degrees of glory"):

Celestial - for Mormons who have kept ALL of the laws and ordinances of their church.

Terrestrial - for religious people who aren't Mormons and for Mormons who have not met the requirements of the Church.

Telestial - where unbelievers go

Almost forgot to reply to you, but thanks to my wife (my eyes when I’m away from FR for days at a time), I was reminded to do so.

I said: No, they are denying the words of Jesus Christ

You said: No, we understand what they actually mean.

You say that with no scriptural backing, or quotes, and expect to make your case strong. in your first reply, you modify scripture (your words : “saw God sitting on his throne”).

**The doctrine you’re describing makes no sense. This isn’t all just an academic exercise. But that’s the way you’re treating it.**

I’m taking Jesus Christ at his word. He says that he is in the Father, and that the Father is in him (John 14:10,11). He has defined God the Father as a Spirit (John 4:23,24).

Jesus Christ defines the Holy Ghost as proceeding from the Father (John 15:26). It is the Holy Spirit OF God, not God the Holy Spirit.

Jesus Christ was given ALL POWER in heaven and in earth (Matt. 28:18); was given the Spirit WITHOUT MEASURE (John 3:34,35). That’s what makes him BOTH Lord AND Christ (Acts 2:36), and has ordained him to be the Judge of quick and dead (Acts 10:42).

**You’re describing an unknowable God. A mystical, magical being that’s every where and no where, is two people sometimes, then three, then back to one... that’s nonsense,IMO.**

That’s because you’ve been taught man’s carnal understanding of the Godhead, instead of the plain teaching of the scriptures.

**No man has seen God the Father, unless Jesus shows Him.**

Jesus Christ is the perfect display of ALL the attributes of God, BECAUSE, as already said, he has all power, and all authority literally IN HIM (the Father IN him).

That’s how we become like Jesus: physical bodies filled with the Spirit of God; but to a measure, seeing that there can be only one King. Of course, these mortal bodies will be replaced with new ones, but still filled with the Spirit of God.

**Jesus was the first. It’s simple.**

I agree.