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To: CynicalBear

You are misdirecting. We are not talking about how “individuals” conduct their personal lives, but rather how they worship their faith. This is a doctrine issue.

Yet another example, in spectacular shallow Bible Christianity!

The Church went “off-track?” Yes, the Holy Spirit suddenly took flight.

Maybe you ought to read up on what the early Church Fathers wrote.

In the year 110 A.D., not even fifteen years after John’s Book of Revelation was written, while on his way to execution St. Ignatius of Antioch wrote:

“Where the bishop is present, there let the congregations gather, just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church”. The Church believes that when the bishops speak as teachers, Christ speaks; for he said to them: “He who hears you, hears me; and he who rejects you, rejects me” (Lk 10, 16).

St. Paul in his letters also warns the faithful to hold fast to the tradition they received: “We command you, brothers, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, to avoid any brother who wanders from the straight path and does not follow the tradition you received from us” (2 Th 3, 6).

The tradition of the Catholic Mass as theological and historical scholars will tell you (of course, we don’t expect Bible Christians to be familiar with any of that, would we?) was celebrated by the early disciples of Christ and the Church fathers.


7 posted on 04/04/2015 2:22:30 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
>>In the year 110 A.D., not even fifteen years after John’s Book of Revelation was written, while on his way to execution St. Ignatius of Antioch wrote:<<

By the time John wrote Revelation 85% of the churches were teaching false doctrine. Why would I trust anyone later then that?

8 posted on 04/04/2015 2:28:32 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Steelfish
You are misdirecting. We are not talking about how “individuals” conduct their personal lives, but rather how they worship their faith. This is a doctrine issue.

We as Christians don't worship a 'Faith'...We worship God...

44 posted on 04/07/2015 6:42:28 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Steelfish
A good historical, yet theological book. Amazing reading!

St. Clement of Rome, St. Ignatius of Antioch, St. Justin Martyr, St. Irenaeus of Lyons

46 posted on 04/07/2015 7:01:39 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Steelfish
The Church went “off-track?” Yes, the Holy Spirit suddenly took flight.

Hey!

It's YOUR claim that the seven churches in Asia were Catholic ones!

Were they off-track or not?

Gonna blame Luther and Osteen for THAT; too?

140 posted on 04/09/2015 3:26:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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