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To: Mrs. Don-o
You don't acknowledge Mary as the woman prophesied in Genesis 3:15, she whose offspring (Jesus)would crush the Serpent;

Of course I don't acknowledge it because it isn't true...Jesus' mother never did and never will crush anyone...That woman is Israel...

you don't call Mary "Blessed" although she prophesied that all generations would do so;

I don't think you know what I do...But I admit I don't worship her nor will I ever pray to her or bow down to a statue of Mary...God forbids that...

and you don't regard yourself as her spiritual offspring (as in Revelation 12:17) in the ongoing cosmic battle against the Serpent --- that selfsame Serpent who started the whole ball of sin and death rolling in Genesis 3.

Well of course I don't...Christians don't have a spiritual mother...There's not an ounce of information in the scriptures about a 'spiritual mother' let alone what to do with one...

While 'that woman is doing her thing, the church is in heaven preparing for the Wedding to the Groom...That woman has nothing to do with the church...That woman is Israel...

And I am certanly not going to latch onto a story of someone seeing a ghost which, according to the stories calls itself Mary and tells me to worship it and build churches to honor it...TEST THE SPIRITS...PROVE ALL THINGS...

It seems you have ignored her from Genesis to Revelation. It's Catholic/Orthodox wisdom which has "cross-referenced with other scriptures so the full meaning comes to light..."

Catholic wisdom is not Godly wisdom...As we all know Catholicism is built upon human philosophy, NOT God's wisdom, nor scripture...

Outside a couple of verses in Isaiah there is no reference in the O.T. to the mother of Jesus...

which is so far from your usual way of thinking about Scripture, you seem boggled by it. And that's unfortunate. But it could be helped if you'd look for the Big Picture.

I am not boggled at all...And the big picture is in Rev. 17...

981 posted on 04/15/2015 9:24:53 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
you don't call Mary "Blessed" although she prophesied that all generations would do so;

The biblical Mary IS blessed.

The Roman 'MARY!' is a caricature of reality.

989 posted on 04/15/2015 9:57:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Iscool
"You don't acknowledge Mary as the woman prophesied in Genesis 3:15?....I don't acknowledge it because it isn't true...Jesus' mother never did and never will crush anyone...That woman is Israel...

Here's the thing: it's the Messiah Who crushes the Serpent. Right or wrong? And Mary is the mother of the Messiah. Right or wrong? Therefore the daughter of Israel, therefore the daughter of Eve, bingo: there's the lo-o-o-ng chain from Eve (and the seed of the Woman), through Israel (begat, begat, begat) to Mary (the true Daughter of Israel), whose Seed is Jesus, He who crushes the Serpent.

This is Christ-centered, not Israel-centered: although of course, Israel is a major, meaningful part of that chain. "Salvation is from the Jews," as Jesus said.

You do see that Mary is the Mother of the Messiah, right?

"Christians don't have a spiritual mother...There's not an ounce of information in the scriptures about a 'spiritual mother'"

Here's a couple of ounces :o)---

"Jesus said to the beloved disciple, 'Behold, thy mother.'" Aren't you a beloved disciple? Do you not see that not only was he to care for her, but she was to care for them?

> And how can I justify extending this to you and to me as beloved disciples? Because that's what it says in Revelation 12:17 ----

"Then the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God’s commandments and bear witness to Jesus."

You wouldn't want to say you're NOT one of her offspring, would you?

"The big picture is in Rev. 17..."

Oh yes! That is big! And it gets even bigger in Rev. 21:

The Spirit and the Bride say, Come!


998 posted on 04/15/2015 10:39:03 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.)
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