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To: redleghunter
I see a high correlation, and hypocrisy, in allowing "personal saviour" and disallowing "mother of God."

Ok, let's start with the above. Show me where I indicated using the term 'personal savior' is Biblical? I did not. I explained several times that the scriptures do not use this term. That looking at psalms, prayers and personal testimony we do see the relationship between God and man personal.

Are you explaining that "personal saviour" is unscriptural and therefore disallowed, or that even though it is not in scripture, it is scriptural and allowed ?

I have already demonstrated from Isaiah and Matthew many times that Mary is the mother of "God with us." There is no credible reason to allow "personal saviour" and disallow "mother of God."

214 posted on 04/09/2015 2:33:21 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
There is no credible reason to allow "personal saviour" and disallow "mother of God."


There is no credible reason to allow "mother of God" and disallow "personal saviour".

217 posted on 04/09/2015 3:28:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
Are you explaining that "personal saviour" is unscriptural and therefore disallowed, or that even though it is not in scripture, it is scriptural and allowed ?

I think you missed quite a bit from what I posted. In summary, "personal Lord and Savior" two of three is in Scriptures. Lord and Savior is most accurate. I stated the 'personal' is not found. I then pointed out that we have evidence of prayers, psalms, and even lamentations which show a personal outpouring of the heart towards God. People of faith in the Scriptures use "my" when referring to God. "My Lord and My God" (Thomas). That is a personal affirmation. I then concluded that 'no' the actual term 'personal' was not to be found. I in no way argued such use as 'Biblical.' When some street evangelists come up to me on a bus or street corner and don't know me, some ask "Is Jesus Christ your personal Lord and Savior." I respond 'yes Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior." They usually get the hint.

I have already demonstrated from Isaiah and Matthew many times that Mary is the mother of "God with us."

And based on the above statement I asked "are you comfortable calling Mary the "mother of YHWH?" Which you did not answer. For the scriptures you provided are evidence of the Deity of the Son of God Jesus Christ. Stretching a title for Mary from those Scriptures is wresting the text as no one in NT addressed her as such.

219 posted on 04/10/2015 6:16:04 AM PDT by redleghunter (1 Peter 1:3-5)
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