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Can the Pope Decide a Sin is No Longer a Sin (Like Eating Meat on Fridays)? (Catholic Caucus)
Aleteia ^ | April 13, 2015 | JOHN MARTIGNONI

Posted on 04/14/2015 1:44:57 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 04/14/2015 1:44:57 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 04/14/2015 1:45:27 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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That whole meat on Fridays thing? It’s changed about a dozen times since I was a kid.

First it was a sin to eat meat on any Friday, then only certain Fridays, then only during Lent. Then eating meat on Friday is okay. Now I’m not sure.

So is gluttony Tuesday okay or is that a sin? Point is, sin by Biblical standards is immutable. God is holy He doesn’t change His position on sin.

Just sayin’.


3 posted on 04/14/2015 1:49:39 PM PDT by Obadiah (Israel had King Manasseh, America has Obama.)
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To: NYer

If it was a Church rule that established that eating meat on Fridays is a sin, the Church can rescind such. What it can’t do is rescind a sin if it was established by God, such as the 10 commandments.


4 posted on 04/14/2015 1:50:08 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: NYer

In the case of eating meat on Fridays, that was a Church-created sin in the first place, as there is absolutely nothing in Scripture that addresses the topic.

Playing a bit fast and loose with the “what you loose here shall be loosed in Heaven” clause IMO.


5 posted on 04/14/2015 1:51:48 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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So the church can declare something a sin outside of God’s Word?


6 posted on 04/14/2015 1:51:58 PM PDT by Obadiah (Israel had King Manasseh, America has Obama.)
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oops didn’t see the catholic caucus. Please delete. Sorry


8 posted on 04/14/2015 1:57:16 PM PDT by BipolarBob (My God can kick your Allahs arse.)
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To: Obadiah

Obviously so, as in the case of eating meat on Fridays. But when they do so, it only pertains to Catholics.


9 posted on 04/14/2015 2:00:29 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: NYer

It boils down to what is moral law - which cannot be changed, and what is Church law. The moral law would be going to Mass on Sunday because it comes from the Decalogue. The Church law would be how long to fast before receiving the Eucharist.


11 posted on 04/14/2015 2:03:33 PM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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Some seem to think he can put people in and out of heaven at will.


12 posted on 04/14/2015 2:04:51 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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Well said. I love many things about the Roman Catholic Church, but the ability to add pharisaical rules over an above what scripture teaches and requires and then to declare violation of those man-made rules to be a sin is heresy.

That the author sees no problem with deeming disobedience to apparently arbitrary church doctrine to be a mortal sin is deeply disturbing. This is exactly the hypocrisy that Jesus taught against for the pharisees.


13 posted on 04/14/2015 2:06:13 PM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: NYer

Our diocese observes the no meat on Friday rule during Lent, so that we are joined together in a sacrifice that unites us. The rest of the year, I don’t worry about it. I think it was more of a sacrifice before vegan and vegetarians became so common. Fish is easy to obtain and going out for lobster and shrimp is hardly a sacrifice. I RME at this one most of the time.


14 posted on 04/14/2015 2:09:21 PM PDT by tioga
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I should add that after the fasting and abstinence of Lent, it indeed feels like a time of celebration that it is. He is risen. Alleluia.


15 posted on 04/14/2015 2:11:13 PM PDT by tioga
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Does anyone know what the reason was for changing this rule? I mean, was abstaining from meat every Friday really such a problem?


16 posted on 04/14/2015 2:12:09 PM PDT by piusv
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“Our diocese observes the no meat on Friday rule during Lent...The rest of the year, I don’t worry about it.”

Same here.

My only problem is that I really don’t like fish, shrimp, etc. Sometimes Lent gets a little boring with a diet of salads and grilled cheese sandwiches. But yet, it’s a minor sacrifice that I can easily bear.


17 posted on 04/14/2015 2:13:12 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: NYer

Never believed it to be a sin. It was a kick for the fish industry


18 posted on 04/14/2015 2:13:37 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: MplsSteve

Cheese pizza, cheese lasagna, mac and cheese were staples here when the kiddies were young. Now the carbs are a no-no. I am not a sea food fan, either, so I can identify with you. My DH keeps reminding me that we are of a certain age and can forgo it, but I still observe. I am an RCIA leader and feel the need to be a leader in all areas. RME


19 posted on 04/14/2015 2:20:47 PM PDT by tioga
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Untrue, check the history, it had nothing to do with any industry.


20 posted on 04/14/2015 2:28:03 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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