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To: paladinan
A simple question....what if someone is in a car wreck and they are dying. A Christian witnesses to this person much as Peter, Philip or Paul did and this person believes in Jesus as a Christian does.

They die without benefit of baptism, good works, etc.

Are they counted as a believer or just some poor dude who is not a believer because he didn't get baptized?

1,247 posted on 05/07/2015 7:51:40 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
A simple question....

All right.

what if someone is in a car wreck and they are dying. A Christian witnesses to this person much as Peter, Philip or Paul did and this person believes in Jesus as a Christian does. They die without benefit of baptism, good works, etc.

Are we presuming that they freely chose to have faith in Jesus Christ, as a result of that witness?

Are they counted as a believer or just some poor dude who is not a believer because he didn't get baptized?

Ultimately, that question is up to God; I wouldn't know, without reading the person's heart. But as to what I think is your question: yes, it's possible for one to be saved if water baptism is an impossibility. Check out the Catechism, #1258-1261, for details about "Baptism of Desire" and "Baptism of Blood", in cases where the normal method of Baptism is not available (through no fault of the recipient).
1,260 posted on 05/07/2015 10:35:41 AM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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