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To: RnMomof7
Actually Rome has massively misread the scriptures, cherry picked passages from the church fathers and developed a false historical narrative..

What authority do you have to make this claim?

You told me that all Protestants (based on their possession of Bibles and Luther's doctrine of Sola Scriptura) agree on a handful of doctrines.

This isn't one of the doctrines on your list, IIRC.

So how can be certain that your claim is true?

Is your interpretation of Scripture infallible?

1,383 posted on 05/08/2015 5:23:32 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; RnMomof7
...Actually Rome has massively misread the scriptures, cherry picked passages from the church fathers and developed a false historical narrative.. -mom

What authority do you have to make this claim? -wishes to be a saint, but doesn't have the right credentials, so becomes a usurper, like Roman Catholicism, in general!!

What authority do you have to make DENY this claim?

The Roman cult denies lay members using apologetics...

She's dead, tom!

1,384 posted on 05/08/2015 5:39:19 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
What authority do you have to make this claim?

By the same authority that you have to deny it.. ARE YOU INFALLIBLE??

1,390 posted on 05/08/2015 6:49:00 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; ...
RnMomof7: Actually Rome has massively misread the scriptures, cherry picked passages from the church fathers and developed a false historical narrative..

STA:What authority do you have to make this claim?

Nobody NEEDS *authority* to make that kind of claim. All they need is simply powers of observation.

By what authority do YOU make any of the claims you make? Did someone give it to you or are you acting on your own?

Catholics appeal to authority constantly as if that validates anything they say, but one does not need authority to read Scripture, nor to understand it, nor to obey it.

No one needs authority to tell them how to live and what to do. Believers are led by the Holy Spirit and enlightened by Him.

And being enlightened by the Holy Spirit does NOT mean agreeing lockstep with every word that Catholicism pronounces, nor obeying every rule, regulation, decree, etc that it passes, many of which are contradictory.

This business of claiming that authority is needed for anything and everything, is a false idea. It's clearly an attempt by Catholicism and Catholics to control people's behavior.

You told me that all Protestants (based on their possession of Bibles and Luther's doctrine of Sola Scriptura) agree on a handful of doctrines. This isn't one of the doctrines on your list, IIRC.

It's a Protestant doctrine that all Protestants agree on a handful of doctrines? I'd like to see the link to the quote where ANYONE EVER said that.

Is your interpretation of Scripture infallible?

No one's *interpretation* of Scripture NEEDS to be "infallible."

Tell me, who is going to interpret the Catholic interpretation of Scripture that the unwashed masses are too ignorant to understand? Surely if people can't correctly interpret Scripture, they are incapable of correctly interpreting anything else. There must be an interpretation of the interpretation floating around somewhere.

1,405 posted on 05/09/2015 3:44:13 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
What authority do you have to make this claim?

So how can be certain that your claim is true?

Is your interpretation of Scripture infallible?

Very good questions, which have been answered, as they not original and also applies to Rome, and which you have basically asked before, but refuse to answer the questions in asked in response to the premise with its presuppositions behind these questions,

So i ask again,

To clarify then, your argument is that an assuredly (if conditionally) infallible magisterium is essential for determination and assurance of Truth (including writings and men being of God) and to fulfill promises of Divine presence, providence of Truth, and preservation of faith, and authority.

And that being the historical instruments and stewards of Divine revelation (oral and written) means that such is that assuredly infallible magisterium. Thus any who knowingly dissent from the latter must be in rebellion to God?

Or at least cannot be a valid minister for God? And are you referring to judicial authority or spiritual authority to bind and loose, preach the word, heal and help souls?

You told me that all Protestants (based on their possession of Bibles and Luther's doctrine of Sola Scriptura) agree on a handful of doctrines. This isn't one of the doctrines on your list, IIRC.

You mean they must reject magisterial authority, or hold that there can be no valid dissent from magisterial authority? Where do you find either as a historical Prot. teaching?

Is your interpretation of Scripture infallible? And how many times does the

1,419 posted on 05/09/2015 10:42:59 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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