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To: editor-surveyor; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...
Its not the Hebrew “thought patterns,” but the completely ignorant translation devoid of understanding of the very core of what the original authors taught. If the Apostles had done the translation to Greek the understanding of the Hebrew traditions would not have been so completely muffed....All of the epistles are jammed full of clumsy misunderstandings of what was being discussed.

Which is akin to Gnosticism. The "understanding of the Hebrew traditions" by an esoteric few means that for about 2000 years at best only a scintilla number of souls have had the word of God, since what we do have in thousands of mss and translations is a completely muffed understanding of the Hebrew traditions, full of clumsy misunderstandings, devoid of understanding of the very core.

I am amazed you even call them Christians who are outside your tiny cultic clan who alone have the true word of God.

Yeshua’s first miracle is a good example. Each of the miracles was centered on the demolition of one of the Pharisees’ Takanot. The making of wine was done in the ceremonial hand washing pots, thus slamming the “washing of the hands.” But there was no hint that the translator of John’s gospel had the slightest understanding of that event.

Meaning the Holy Spirit, since He did not inspire the writer to add this commentary.

Every time one of the feasts is mentioned, it is called “a feast of the Jews,” but no Jew would have looked at them in that manner; they knew that the feasts were for the world, and that those that failed to respect them were buying curses and damnation upon themselves and their nations.

Meaning you blame the Holy Spirit, since He did not inspire the writer to say "feast of the world." And thus virtually all but some basically invisible elitists have been buying curses and damnation upon themselves and their nations by believing the Bible the way it was written.

Most Christians are so poorly schooled on what the entire Bible is all about that these things mean nothing to them, but to all that have studied the word fully they stand out like a sore thumb.

No doubt but ye are the people, and wisdom shall die with you. (Job 12:2)

Or without your esoterical elitist clan

Its like the difference between a “Little Golden Book” version, and an upper division text book. If its not for you, OK, but please don’t try to snow those that understand. That is way below your level.

Meaning we are all below your level, just as Rome looks at Prots, supposing she uniquely knows what Scripture means above that of others, with her amorphous tradition. Elitists against Elitists

990 posted on 05/03/2015 10:56:19 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; roamer_1

What so now its your turn to post a straw argument?

No, it was not The “understanding of the Hebrew traditions by an esoteric few.”

It was the ancient traditions of how the feasts of Leviticus were prepared and what they meant in God’s plan, as explained to the disciples by their Messiach.

Those feasts are God’s education plan for his elect. There was not a trace of gnosticism or esoterics involved, and there is no reason for you to try to divert from the real subject at hand.

You do the adversary’s work.

There is no reason that the Holy Spirit would be leading those that worked to recolor the epistles to their own agenda. If that were the HS’s modus, there would not be so many gnostic “gospels” floating around.

I was talking about the very same kind of blind ignorance of God’s well presented plan that prevails in all the dispensational churches that teach a Barnum and Bailey gospel today.

The apostles all knew God’s plan well, as they had been tutored by Yeshua, to remove all of the Pharisee’s corruptions. That is not esoteric.

There is no lack of the Holy Spirit’s guidance in the surviving 28 copies of Matthew’s original Hebrew gospel. Likely that is the Holy Spirit’s sole provision to the preservation of the Gospel as restored by Yeshua, or those copies would not have come from such diverse parts of the world.

Every bit of your sarcasm is out of place in this discussion, but I guess that is your attempt at a smoke screen? Or do you really believe that Yeshua restored a gnostic plan?

Why did the Holy Spirit not inspire the “Gospel of Thomas,” or the “Gospel of Judas?”

Frankly your reply looks like nothing but angry thrashing.
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991 posted on 05/03/2015 1:15:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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