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Did the Early Church Fathers Believe in Sola Scriptura?
Credo House ^ | April 25, 2015 | C Michael Patton

Posted on 05/05/2015 8:14:00 AM PDT by Gamecock

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1 posted on 05/05/2015 8:14:00 AM PDT by Gamecock
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“They [heretics] gather their views from other sources than the Scriptures.

I move that Irenaeus be named an honorary FR Protestant!

2 posted on 05/05/2015 8:15:05 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: Gamecock

Of course.

If what is written in the Scriptures is not the source of our Faith then what is?


3 posted on 05/05/2015 8:16:26 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Gamecock

It is a complicated, two sided coin. If you believe in the authority of the scriptures alone, you tend to protect yourself from the Joseph Smiths and David Koresh’s of the world. On the other hand, if you believe modern men can claim the same authority, well, you open yourself up to the Joseph Smiths and David Koresh’s of the world.

I’m of the former camp, but believe that prayer is key, as well as studying the impressions and interpretations of scripture from other contemporary men (or relatively contemporary, e.g. C.S. Lewis) to possibly guide me or open my eyes to ideas that I had not thought of. I then read scripture - the only true authority - to see if what they say jibes with the word of God.


4 posted on 05/05/2015 8:19:40 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Sola Scriptura: the reformed Protestant belief that the Scriptures alone are the final and only infallible authority for the Christian.

Who gets to decide which version of the Scriptures?

5 posted on 05/05/2015 8:20:25 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The have-nots want more and the haves are wearing thin.)
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That’s an interesting question. The other day on TV I saw a program-—either on NatGeo or Smithsonian channel-—I forget which one. A gospel was found which strongly indicates that Jesus was married. The whole program was developed around that idea. Who gets to determine if that gospel is authentic or some gossip sheet written by a charlatan? I would think there are a sufficient number of scholars and historians around today which can determine which scriptures are valid and which are not.


6 posted on 05/05/2015 8:27:51 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Gamecock

What`s difficult?

2 Timothy 3:16

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Thy Word is Truth John 17:17

pretty simple


7 posted on 05/05/2015 8:30:43 AM PDT by Chauncey Uppercrust (BLUE LIVES MATTER)
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To: oldbrowser

Who gets to decide which version of the Scriptures?

If in doubt start with the KJV then take it back to the earliest Greek, Aramaic or Hebrew manuscripts you have access to. Instead of complicating things I’ve found it actually simplifies scripture while bringing fresh insights.


8 posted on 05/05/2015 8:32:30 AM PDT by wheat_grinder
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

A lie from the pit of Hell. Jesus was never married, why would you even consider such a thing.


9 posted on 05/05/2015 8:34:53 AM PDT by Chauncey Uppercrust (BLUE LIVES MATTER)
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To: Gamecock

When Satan quoted the Word of GOD to THE Word, Jesus, he wrested a promise of God and distorted it into an unqualified promise of protection. Interesting that he DIDN’T quote the verse just after:

“You will tread on the lion and the adder;
the young lion and the serpent you will trample underfoot.”—Psalm 91:13

There’s a WHOLE LOT going on in that interaction between Jesus and the devil. At a minimum it shows us how Satan practices his Lie about the Father, manipulating the spoken and recorded word.


10 posted on 05/05/2015 8:35:11 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Chauncey Uppercrust

Who said I believed it was true? It was a program I saw on TV about a gospel that was found. I personally did not believe sufficient evidence was provided in that program to prove it. As for the four gospels accepted into the Bible, they are silent on the subject.


11 posted on 05/05/2015 8:38:46 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Besides the fact that the earliest version of that was from around 300?

The Scripture we have was out there and in wide use by local congregations far before that.


12 posted on 05/05/2015 8:38:53 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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Fathers vs. the Evangelicals
The Early Church Fathers on the Scriptures: These Words are the Word of God [Ecumenical]
The Early Church Fathers on the Scriptures: The Two Meanings of the Bible [Ecumenical]
The Early Church Fathers on the Scriptures: Guide to the Discovery of Scripture [Ecumenical]
The Early Church Fathers on the Scriptures: The Two Meanings of the Bible [Ecumenical]
THE CHURCH FATHERS: A DOOR TO ROME (fundamentalist warns saying they sound too Catholic)
Were the Church Fathers Closer to Protestantism Than to Catholicism?
St. Irenaeus of Lyons: The First Great Theologian of the Church (March 28, 2007)
The Early Church Fathers on Salvation Outside the Church [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
Early Church Fathers on (Oral) Tradition - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

13 posted on 05/05/2015 8:39:46 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Stick around. There will be a lot of dissent in 5, 4, 3, 2.....


14 posted on 05/05/2015 8:40:16 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
If God is God, He can preserve and protect that which He wills

If "scripture" has been preserved and protected all this time, is is only (imo) the enemy using the latest weaponry to attempt to (once again) destroy God's Word

Before the mid 20th century, the only way man could attempt to do damage to God's Word was by killing human beings and burning books .... that was all that was available to fallable men ... and THAT never worked

The weaponry of today is more sinister and sublime, but essentially the same ... kill a messenger (slander, libel, trumped up, life wrecking charges, etc.) and burning (pseudo-intellectual argument, etc.) .. books

Solo scriptura is so simple and easy and satisfying.

15 posted on 05/05/2015 8:40:42 AM PDT by knarf (Especially the one from the Philipines I share bed with ....)
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**Who gets to decide which version of the Scriptures?**

Scripture was written from the years 50 AD until about 100 AD.

The canon of Scripture was compiled later. But the Scriptures were out there being read in the churches established by the Apostles, including Paul.


16 posted on 05/05/2015 8:45:04 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Would you agree that an adherent of sola scriptura could question, say, the conclusions of the First Council of Nicaea, based upon his own personal reading of Scripture?

And if not, why not? Why would that one group of fallible men be entitled to establish for all time their reading of the nature of Christ as the correct one?

17 posted on 05/05/2015 8:45:57 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (I wish someone would tell me what "diddy wah diddy" means.....)
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To: wheat_grinder
You are aware that the first printed Bible was of Catholic origin, aren't you?

The first mass produced printed book was the Bible, a version based on the Latin edition from about 380 AD.. The Bible was printed at Mainz, Germany by Johannes Gutenberg from 1452 -1455..

18 posted on 05/05/2015 8:47:19 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Gamecock

The very early Church Fathers didn’t have any new scriptura to be sola.


19 posted on 05/05/2015 8:49:46 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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And yet the appeal to Scripture and not tradition!


20 posted on 05/05/2015 8:50:40 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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