Posted on 05/09/2015 7:44:31 AM PDT by RnMomof7
Millions of sincere Catholics wear the brown scapular thinking by doing so it will help them spiritually. They believed the report that Mary made and is backing a salvation promise in connection with the brown scapular hundreds of years ago based on their religious traditions. Over the years wearing the brown scapular has been perpetuated by sincere Catholic leaders, such as the one in this video, but it is in complete futility that it is worn. It is a false hope and a spiritual snare. 
It is not based on God’s truth and is, therefore, just as deadly for the sincere Catholic as it is for the Hindu who bathes in the Ganges River thinking his sins will be washed away in the water or for the Muslim who kisses the black stone of Kaaba to be forgiven! [The picture to the right is Mel Gibson, the director of the Passion of Christ, wearing a brown scapular as he smokes.]
I too once wore the brown scapular as an Ex Roman Catholic. I know what it is like to be taught something and accept it as truth to find out later it is not only unscriptural, but anti-scriptural. It hurts, but TRUTH is what we must stand on to be safe. It takes humility in such cases to turn.
NOTE: At about 2:23 time-wise into the video, the speaker is quoted below. How could anyone deny that Mary is deified in Catholicism? Surely, this rampant idolatry is grieving to the Lord Jesus Christ and God the Father. This is what Catholicism teaches about the brown scapular:
And so, wearing of the brown scapular reminds us, should remind us, of three things. First, that we are children of Mary. Second of all, that we need to work for our Lady. And finally, it should be a garment of humility and penance. First, by the brown scapular we profess ourselves to be children of Mary. The scapular of our Lady is a badge or a uniform so to speak by which we profess to whom we belong and who we serve. Likewise, our Lady in turn by wearing the brown scapular, she recognizes us as her children, as her special children. And because of that, she consequently protects us and watches over us. The brown scapular should also remind us that we need to work for our Lady because the scapular, which means shoulder garment, was originally that, it was a garment worn by religious in order to protect their habit, their religious habit that they wore on a daily basis during those periods of work to keep it from getting dirty, stained, from ripping, etc. and so therefore the scapular is a working garb. And so this should remind us that there’s no room for lazy piety. If we wear the brown scapular and we consider ourselves our Lady’s children, there’s no place for lazy piety but rather we should fill our lives with good works. This brown scapular should remind us the need to faithfully fulfill our daily duties, and to make another adaptation of Scripture, to labor as good soldiers of the Immaculate. Finally, the third place, the brown scapular is also a garment of humility and of penance. So in a spirit of penance, we should accept all the difficulties of our state of life and all the sufferings that our Lady may want to send us. And the scapular will give us the strength to do this. In all of our difficulties, we can always grab onto our brown scapular, remind ourselves of our Lady’s protection, her watchfulness, her presence and especially at the moment of death, when we can call to mind our Lady’s promise of salvation. Our Lady of Mount Carmel, pray for us.
* Not a single word about Jesus was mentioned there.
* The brown scapular is 100% religious mythology and idolatry, as Mary is deified as a type of Savior.
* No Bible light shines from such brown scapular Catholic tradition.
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>> “ The caucus designation should be removed on those threads she sends us to.” <<
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I concur.
That should be included in the rules of the forum.
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Interesting passage.
Some do Rejoice that the spirits are subject to them (Benny Hinn?) but are their names “written in Heaven?”
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Now don’t go trashing my charismatic buddies. Different strokes for different folks. Is the elbow the pancreas?
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I asked a question.
Do you believe that you have the answer to it?
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The Book of Life?
They better hope their names are written there and never blotted out!
>> “There are conflicts in scripture” <<
To an unbeliever, not led by the spirit, that is so.
>> “You (anyone) must interpret words to comprehend their meaning.” <<
Again, for the unbeliever this may be so, if he is not led in the spirit.
Following that logic, anything goes - it does not matter what the words in scripture say. Anyone can claim, or imagine, guidance from the Holy Spirit to do anything. Scripture itself loses all authority, and only (subjective) revelation is valid.
NOBODY but Jesus is or was born sinless.
Re: the brown scapular. If we can believe Wikopedia, it says not that much difference between a talisman and an amulet:
A talisman is an object which is believed to contain certain magical or sacramental properties... Amulets and talismans are often considered interchangeable despite their differences.
How ironic that you post that comment just after you accuse RnMom of lying.
Some atmosphere.......
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So then you believe that the Holy Spirit does not impart the correct meaning of the scriptures?
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In general, an amulet is created by a sorcerer for a special purpose. A Talisman supposedly has great powers.
From the Catechism of the Catholic church....
http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a9p6.htm
969 “This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation .... Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.”510
Names of God from the Bible. Compare them to the names given to Mary in the above quote from the CCC.
Jesus
Hope (our) - 1 Timothy 1:1
Counselor - Isaiah 9:6
Advocate - 1 John 2:1
Mediator - 1 Timothy 2:5, Hebrews 9:15, Hebrews 12:24
Holy Spirit
Comforter - John 14:26
Helper – John 14:16
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He does that constantly.
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Do you often call men *sweetie*?
Because it sounds like a condescending snark at a woman.
Except that he’s not.
That sign seems to be part of a myth.
“The fact that Irish vividly “remember” NINA signs is a curious historical puzzle. There are no contemporary or retrospective accounts of a specific sign at a specific location. No particular business enterprise is named as a culprit. No historian, 2 archivist, or museum curator has ever located one 3 ; no photograph or drawing exists. 4 No other ethnic group complained about being singled out by comparable signs. Only Irish Catholics have reported seeing the sign in America—no Protestant, no Jew, no non-Irish Catholic has reported seeing one. This is especially strange since signs were primarily directed toward these others: the signs said that employment was available here and invited Yankees, French-Canadians, Italians and any other non-Irish to come inside and apply. The business literature, both published and unpublished, never mentions NINA or any policy remotely like it. The newspapers and magazines are silent. The courts are silent. There is no record of an angry youth tossing a brick through the window that held such a sign. Have we not discovered all of the signs of an urban legend?”
http://tigger.uic.edu/~rjensen/no-irish.htm
If you're talking about something like a citation guideline (and not something else, like "we have known the full verse of Matthew 11:11 for a long time"), well, it's not written anywhere obvious, such as the Religion Moderator profile or some other "official" page. Although I can't claim to have read everything, I've also never seen such a rule invoked elsewhere on this forum.
(Heh, even before I read your post I was having some new thoughts about sola scriptura, thanks to what I was already thinking about what is "written." Although these thoughts are not yet formed enough to post here--and in my mind they could be sufficiently on-topic to fit--I do notice how trains of thought can start from relatively little things.)
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