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To: CynicalBear
"Why change the subject which was whether God made His word available to all generations. Noah had God's word available to him."

That's not changing the subject. You claimed that God's word is available to all people at all times. My point is that man can reject that word and make it unavailable by their actions to not only themselves but future generations.

"Who told you that? God was talking to the Israelites. You can't take verses out of context."

All prophets have one task that is universal among them all; testify of the coming Messiah. Either His first or second coming. When ever the prophet says "only son" he's referring to Jesus.

Amos is seeing a vision of the destruction of Israel. And the death of Christ. The mourning of an only son and the sun going down at noon day is reference to the crucifixion.

12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.

In verse 12, Amos makes it clear that the word of God (according to God's standard) is not to be found. And remember "Israel" also refers to the people of God not just the Jews.

But there have always been the writings of the prophets, but not living prophets. And that's the famine he's referring to.

By your standard, Amos 8 could never have been fulfilled. Because by your standard, the word of God is only the scriptures. But the world has never been with out them ever.

"No, it doesn't. Do you totally not understand the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and it's affects?"

I know you have confuse the influence of the Holy Ghost that testifies of truth to the whole world and the Gift of Holy Ghost which is given by the laying on of hands by those authorized by God to give it.

The Holy Ghost gives a good feeling. What you don't realize is that it's only the tip of the iceberg of what God has provided.

The problem is that people link that feeling they get when the Holy Ghost testifies of Jesus, with all their false doctrines and wrong conclusions. Then they feel validated not realizing they are actually on the wrong path.

In your estimation was Jesus being mean?

Don't try to draw a moral equivalence between your insults and the Lord's righteous judgement. Last I checked, it was His right to judge all mankind.

I noticed you skipped the example of Moses so I'll restate it in case you missed it.

The word of God wasn't available to the Israelites until Moses visited with God and brought the word to the people. Which totally invalidates your whole point. The word of God was not on the earth until God raised up Moses and gave the word to Moses to give to the people.

So it wasn't available in all generations like you said.
712 posted on 05/18/2015 2:14:15 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper
>>You claimed that God's word is available to all people at all times.<<

I said WHAT? Do you generally read into statements meaning that isn't there? I said not such thing. I said "to all generations". That may not include all people withing each generation so it's NOT "all people at all times".

>>And remember "Israel" also refers to the people of God not just the Jews.<<

No, it doesn't. Israel is Israel and has NOT been superseded by some other group.

>>By your standard, Amos 8 could never have been fulfilled.<<

Don't be absurd. Amos 8 was fulfilled when Jesus was rejected by the Jews. They have been "hardened in part" and don't see God's word just as Amos prophesied.

Romans 11:25 For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery-- so that you will not be wise in your own estimation-- that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in;

>>The word of God was not on the earth until God raised up Moses and gave the word to Moses to give to the people.<<

When was it that God said His word would be to all generations? Before or after He gave His word to Moses and told him to write it down?

>>So it wasn't available in all generations like you said.<<

It wasn't me who said it.

Isaiah 59:21 "As for me this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not pass out of the thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed saith the Lord, from henceforth and forever."

Now, do you think God can keep His promise? Or are you going to try to twist even His words as you did mine?

713 posted on 05/18/2015 2:44:16 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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