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Vatican recognizes state of Palestine in new treaty
The Blaze ^ | May 13, 2015

Posted on 05/13/2015 8:27:31 AM PDT by Iscool

Edited on 05/13/2015 1:32:16 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

VATICAN CITY (AP)

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abbas; bible; bibleprophecy; crusades; daniel11; francis; israel; lastdays; palestine; palestinianstatehood; pope; popefrancis; prophecy; rop; stateofpalestine; vatican; worldwar3; wot
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To: SaveFerris

:)


41 posted on 05/13/2015 9:31:41 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: Original Lurker
Wasn’t there a Jewish carpenter who once said “a dog will always go back to its vomit”. Ha!

What the heck do I know..

Apparently not the source ...

A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. He that sendeth a message by the hand of a fool cutteth off the feet, and drinketh damage. The legs of the lame are not equal: so is a parable in the mouth of fools. As he that bindeth a stone in a sling, so is he that giveth honour to a fool. As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouths of fools. The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors. As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly. Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet. These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
Proverbs, Catholic chapter twenty six, Protestant three to twelve,
Second Peter, Catholic chapter two, in its entirety,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

42 posted on 05/14/2015 4:29:33 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Iscool

Perhaps a sign that we are in the great ‘apostosia’ prior to The Rapture of His Bride, The Body of Christ.


43 posted on 05/14/2015 10:45:24 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: max americana

“I mean, these clowns collaborated with the Nazis.”

That nonsense tells me the Church has all the right enemies. A lot of people were disappointed when the Vatican recognized Israel as well...


44 posted on 05/14/2015 3:38:44 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Iscool
No surprise here. The ancient churches have always taught that the Jews were "disinherited" and "replaced" as Israel by the church. And even the liberal, "philo-Semitic" among them are still rabidly anti-Zionist (because it's colonialism inflicted on "indigenous pipples," don'tcha know?).

Traditionalist Catholics seem to regard the villainy of the Jewish People as almost a dogma. Every traditionalist Catholic web site claims the world situation is because of a "Judaeo-Masonic conspiracy," that the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" are the real deal, and even that Jews once (if no longer) killed chrstian children and used their blood to make mattzah.

It's crazy. Not long ago I read a page on Tradition in Action (a traditionalist Catholic web page) that explained with an absolutely straight face that the Jews ran Freemasonry and the whole "revolution" and that quoted the Protocols as absolutely true and authoritative.

And btw, the Catholic "hero" "St." Maximilian Kolbe believed all this stuff as well.

Meanwhile, left wing hippie "liberation theology" Catholics are anti-Israel because they (the hippie Catholics, not Israel) are Commies.

45 posted on 05/14/2015 4:12:08 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
The Vatican is no longer being run by Catholics. It’s being run by communists posing as Catholics. That’s why Francis is there.

The old, anti-Communist Vatican was just as anti-Zionist/anti-Israel as the new left wing Vatican is. If you doubt that, ask some of the Traditionalist Catholics on FR what they think of Israel!

46 posted on 05/14/2015 4:13:56 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: bonfire
They need a Martin Luther to stir things up.

I doubt very seriously that Luther would have disagreed with the Vatican on this particular issue.

American chrstians simply are not aware that "chrstian Zionism" is a relatively new position, unknown until about four hundred years ago at the very most. Historical chrstianity, whether "apostolic" or "biblical," has always been anti-Jewish and adamantly opposed to any Jewish restoration.

American chrstians should seriously consider becoming Noachides or even converting to Judaism.

47 posted on 05/14/2015 4:16:14 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
And btw, the Catholic "hero" "St." Maximilian Kolbe believed all this stuff as well.

What did he do ?

  1. During the Second World War he provided shelter to refugees from Greater Poland, including 2,000 Jews whom he hid from Nazi persecution in his friary in Niepokalanów.
  2. On February 17, 1941 he was arrested by the German Gestapo and imprisoned in the Pawiak prison, and on May 25 was transferred to Auschwitz I as prisoner #16670.

48 posted on 05/15/2015 4:28:22 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The Messiah came from the Jews. He was born through the line of David and came to the earth in the form of a Jewish man. He, as Creator, chose to complete His plan of salvation in a tiny country (Israel) in the Middle East. Man had a problem with that because it didn't fit his view and interpretation of how the Lord should act in fulfilling the OT prophesies of the promised Messiah. The Messiah fulfilled the Law, something man could never do. (Matthew 5:17-18) And He shed His own blood as a living sacrifice for the remission of our sins (once and for all) on that very land. (Hebrews 9:22) His only requirement is that we follow Him and repent, believe on Him and receive His sacrifice as an atonement for our sins. (John 3) Outside of that, anything else is all man-centered and self-works religion and rituals.

I am a Christian Zionist because the Holy Spirit has placed in my heart a great love for Israel and the Jewish people. The greatest gift in all of human history came from Israel and the Jews. Whether or not they recognize their Messiah does not make me care for them any less.

49 posted on 05/15/2015 8:46:07 AM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: max americana
The Church did no collaborated with the Nazis, just the opposite, thanks to Pope Pius XII the Church saved the lives of over 800 million Jews.

Unfortunately, Pope Francis has repudiated the condemnation of Communism considered as an intrinsically perverse ideology incompatible with he Gospels and the Magisterium of the Church, by all the Popes since the end to the 19th century,. In fact Francis is the nemesis of Pius XII who condemned Nazism and Communism in the strongest terms.

Pope Francis, before going to the Middle East, called himself the Che Guevara of the Palestine people, a flabbergasting affirmation to identify with and to use El Che as model and inspiration, a mass murderer and genocide of the Cuban people. While Muslims keep mass murdering Christians, Francis allied himself with the terrorists of the PLO and Hamas recognizing a no existent Palestine State – a dagger at the heart of the State of Israel.

In the same vein, Pope Francis welcomes the return to the Church the torturers of the Cuban people. After the pardon of the Castro brothers for the murder of so many Cubans, will Pope Francis give a post mortem absolution for Hitler, Stalin and Mao for the murder of hundreds of millions human beings ?

Thanks to the Marxist Liberation Theology Pope and comrade Obama, a Tsunami of dollars from American taxpayers will flood the Island - that is well worth for the genocide of the Cuban people to celebrate a Tē Deum laudāmus Mass.

50 posted on 05/15/2015 7:54:49 PM PDT by Dqban22 (h=white)
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